If the only content of your post is sarcasm, please stick to Reddit. We like to stick to facts and reality here.
The sky is blue. See? I posted a fact. My comment is fully valid and you can't say anything about it. Oh? It's irrelevant to the topic?
It may be too subtle for you, but I was actually making the point that the surveillance panopticon theory was mostly triggered by the fact that Flock is cloud-based.
I'm basically making a distinction between a hypothetical non-cloud Flock vs cloud-Flock.
And it may be too complex a concept, but ex-lovers, union organizers, and journlists could use whatever camera-based ALPR existed, even if it wasn't cloud-based.
Examples using flock are directly applicable, examples not using flock require a little bit of imagination to see that if they are not currently happening, they will be soon.
Replying in a separate comment, since you seem to have responded to my reply by editing your comment.
If you can’t disagree without belittling, maybe stick to reddit?
Either way, a networked array of license plate readers is an issue because it’s low friction and easily abused, with little space for oversight. A non-networked setup? Yeah i’m ok with that. If the gov needs to physically go to each camera and load data off them? Sounds fine to me. But somehow i don’t think that’s what you are suggesting when you say “non-cloud”. Once it’s networked, it doesn’t really matter if the network is a “cloud” based one or not.
But also, most of my comment was actually directed at alex43578‘s remarks, not yours.
If the only content of your post is sarcasm, please stick to Reddit. We like to stick to facts and reality here.
The sky is blue. See? I posted a fact. My comment is fully valid and you can't say anything about it. Oh? It's irrelevant to the topic?
It may be too subtle for you, but I was actually making the point that the surveillance panopticon theory was mostly triggered by the fact that Flock is cloud-based.
I'm basically making a distinction between a hypothetical non-cloud Flock vs cloud-Flock.
And it may be too complex a concept, but ex-lovers, union organizers, and journlists could use whatever camera-based ALPR existed, even if it wasn't cloud-based.
Making your comment irrelevant.
Thank you for it though.
My post contains only the thinnest crust of sarcasm, the rest is fact based content.
Ex lovers (using flock): https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article29105...
Protestors (using flock): https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/11/how-cops-are-using-flo...
Union organizers (not using flock): https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/21/amaz...
https://fedscoop.com/social-media-ai-surveillance-unions-sta...
Journalists (not using flock): https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/source-leaked-documen...
Examples using flock are directly applicable, examples not using flock require a little bit of imagination to see that if they are not currently happening, they will be soon.
And a bonus i didn’t mention a woman leaving the state to obtain a legal abortion: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/te...
Replying in a separate comment, since you seem to have responded to my reply by editing your comment.
If you can’t disagree without belittling, maybe stick to reddit?
Either way, a networked array of license plate readers is an issue because it’s low friction and easily abused, with little space for oversight. A non-networked setup? Yeah i’m ok with that. If the gov needs to physically go to each camera and load data off them? Sounds fine to me. But somehow i don’t think that’s what you are suggesting when you say “non-cloud”. Once it’s networked, it doesn’t really matter if the network is a “cloud” based one or not.
But also, most of my comment was actually directed at alex43578‘s remarks, not yours.