Comment by eviks

12 hours ago

That's the beauty of using a GUI-first operating system!

> only way you can protect your Documents folder from access by Insent is to run the following command in Terminal: tccutil reset All co.eclecticlight.Insent then restart your Mac

Jobs is turning in his grave. There are lots of stories of this conflict at NeXT and Mac OS X where there's a quick fix but not via GUI, which was one of the many things that incensed him.

  • Is there a common source/collection of such stories?

    • I'm sure there are some great ones, but it was 5-10 years ago when I last read one, and it was fantastic. It's nearly impossible to do a web search for it right now, probably because of Google's bias towards recency. I know it's been linked on Hacker News many times, so maybe somebody else has better info here.

      Even if you're not an Apple fan, these sorts of stories are kind of great for learning about product development and companies in general, I think. jwz's stories of Netscape are also phenomenal. (Just don't click on any HN links that go to jwz.org, or you'll have to clear cookies to see any content there in the future. He's not a fan of the exploitation that startups frequently do to their employees and views HN as a primary channel of promoting that exploitation.)

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  • Then there's the OS/400 approach: Build TUIs that allow the user to set arguments and then just run command the line tools on submit. It was a really nice blend of two approaches and made things like man pages somewhat superflous.

Speaking of GUI weirdness, I've seen a couple of relatively newer macbooks do this thing where the laptop is shutdown with wifi disabled, but after login on startup the wifi icon displays the wifi scanning mode as if the wifi is enabled and looking for networks before reverting to the wifi disabled display icon.

Is this a GUI bug or is the wifi disabled setting overrided for a split second on startup? I haven't looked into it, but the latter would be extremely concerning.

  • based on my experience, I suspect the latter

    similar, user-hostile behaviors I have found include:

    - wifi network passwords are persisted through a system wipe and reinstall in recovery mode - a phone home is required by an activation step during installation - bluetooth is always re-enabled after an upgrade