Comment by vntok

5 hours ago

Yes, and "his obsessive drive for perfection" as you put it is what would make him "rolling in his grave if he could see the software quality of the products that Apple releases today" as the parent put it.

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nirava  5 hours ago

He famously shipped the original Macintosh with a keyboard without arrow keys to force buyers to use the mouse.

His vision of perfection didn't always match common sense. There are quite a few examples of this.

I always cringe a little when I read these "jobs would have rolled over in his grave" comments.

  • abcd_f  4 hours ago

    He would've not let the abysmal slop like iOS 26 UI to ship ever.

    Some things he didn't appear to care much about, the polished UX was his schtick.

    • nirava  4 hours ago

      I am 100% sure that Steve Jobs could have shipped a broken Czech keyboard if that was in pursuit of some random abstract like purity or minimalism. "iOS keyboard has too many keys. Reduce keys make them larger. People should not use these obscure symbols anyway". (extrapolated from a couple of biographies and a couple of books on 1980s Apple I read, this is very consistent with his character).

      As for iOS 26, no reasonable person would have let it ship. From one source (John Gruber -> "Bad Dye Job") the previous head of Apple's UI design team who lead the UI team was just not a UX designer, he was just a visual designer or something. I think it shows.

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  • philwelch  3 hours ago

    Jobs was a perfectionist and a minimalist. Part of minimalism is that sometimes you delete marginal features (arrow keys) that you still end up wanting back.

    If you never delete too many features, you aren’t deleting enough features.