Comment by well_ackshually

5 days ago

<American Company> European means nothing. They are all subject to the US Cloud Act, and the moment you start using their services, it inevitably has one or two services that end up contacting us-east-1 anyways. And that's without taking into account that they are all trying to fuck you over from.behind anyways as they sign data exchange agreements between Europe and the US.

The large US players are not an option if you want your data safe from the US.

I haven't looked into the details but I remember from the announcement that the EU cloud is owned specifically by an EU entity headed by EU citizens. There would be no point spinning up a 'sovereign cloud' beholden to the US.

  • ... And this entity is again owned by AWS. And so the cloud act still applies.

    > There would be no point spinning up a 'sovereign cloud' beholden to the US.

    Of course: It gives (both sides) a narrative that let's them pretend everything is alright.

    • Edit: Looks like the below is not true. However, such setup is technically possible and if they were serious about making it truly isolated from US influence, it can be done.

      Original comment: No it's not owned by AWS. It's a separate legal entity with EU based board and they license the technology from the US company.

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