Comment by zythyx

10 hours ago

What more does Plex need? I would consider myself a power user of Plex and it does everything I need it to do. I would think the only thing I can think of is fully self-hosted login instead of their cloud option, but I'm glad we have that option because I don't want to handle the authentication of my friends and family

* IPTV support (xtream codes etc.) yes proxies exist like Dispatcharr but first class support would be better

* Better iOS/tvOS/OSX video playback (just buy Infuse because it can play so many titles the Plex player cannot)

* Add full context menus everywhere. Playlists are virtually useless for anything other than playback in order or randomly. Why can't I multi-select items on a playlist and move them to another playlist?

* Subtitle settings turn off between episodes

* Let me sort by file size so I can watch the disk gobbling files first

Thank God for python-plexapi and a bunch of scripts I use to organize an unwieldy library.

  • Highly recommend Infuse on Apple TV. Since I was running Plex on my NAS it would often be very buggy and slow with buffering. One day I got fed up and tried infuse, pointed it at the same network share, and bam- instant playback that worked consistently, and way better native controls for subtitles etc. I’m sure there are good reasons to use Plex, I did so for years, but honestly streaming has been so much easier since moving off it.

They removed plugins which severely hamstrung their ecosystem. They quickly lost a ton of useful features and started to lock everything into their preferences.

It needs more of the feature that makes it a networked player for the media I already have (which works great -- once a person gets to it), and less of the misfeature that is the sideshow also-ran ad-supported and rental live streaming and on-demand offerings (which I will never, ever use -- and that Jellyfin lacks altogether).

Plex been swinging in the wrong direction for a number of years now.

Here's an easy one: working downloads on mobile. Plex offline downloads are notoriously buggy.

  • Plex offline simply does not work. If it does work, it'll stop working when you get service/connectivity. It is wild how bad it is.

  • I don't even consider it an option anymore. I just turn to other software that sends the original file to me. It would be great to have Plex transcode my high res movies on the fly and send me smaller copies tailored for my device. I could save space on my mobile devices while having my progress synced back to Plex.

The poster you're asking this to is probably talking about plug-ins. Plex, very long ago, supported plug-ins, but it no longer does. Plug-ins were usually for adding in support for other media scrapers (porn and anime), or even other media types, like audiobooks.

Additionally, Plex tends to revise their UI and inner workings in a way that favors everything but the core media sharing platform. They add TV stations, they mix in their streaming ad-supported channels with your search results, and push them before the friends and family stuff, making it tough to help other navigate to shared libraries.

I think, overall, Plex is a good shepherd for their product, but everyone knows the enshitificaiton process is inevitable. It's just a question of how long the timeline between "Plex is usable" and "Plex is sold to private equity and is now utter shit." I've been pleasantly surprised with the length, so far. But having an escape hatch is always a good idea, and Jellyfin seems to be nearing a parity.

The last time I was involved in a thread like this, I was banned from r/plex.

I pointed out that Plex should do ebooks. It is a natural fit. They keep track of how far in a series or a show you are, they could keep track of where you are in a book. Many of the Plex idioms transfer well. It has a clear visual style that helps you to pick out the shows you might try, or shows like those you've already watched.

BUT IT'S NOT EVEN MEDIA, YOU'RE STUPID

Books were the first media, you must be illiterate.

WHY WOULD I WANT TO READ BOOKS ON MY BIGSCREEN TV!

Plex runs on my iPhone. And on yours too.

[banhammered]

But if you need more than one feature, I'm sure that in 10 or 15 minutes I could come up with a 90 page list of features. Without even trying.

>I would think the only thing I can think of is fully self-hosted login instead of their cloud option

Well shit. Even you can come up with one thing. Plex was awesome, and then Plex wanted to be the shittiest version of whatever CBS is calling their streaming service.

  • An even easier fit would be comic books. They already let you steam libraries of photos. I have never used that feature, but I would definitely stream some comics.

    Also, they could handle audiobooks since they already stream music.

    Instead, they want to sell me on streaming services when I started using Plex because I pirate my media.

    I do see one issue with books that other media doesn't have. That is the ability to interact. When I use my e-reader, I like features like highlighting, taking notes, dictionaries, and other features that are more complicated that just streaming rendered images from a book.

    • >An even easier fit would be comic books.

      That's just a book format issue, but I'm on board.

      >They already let you steam libraries of photos.

      Well, about that... they're kind of shit at it. Photos have always been their least favorite supported media. Not much in the way of metadata support, unable to organize them. But it brings me to another problem... they don't understand what media types are.

      They support audio, but call it music. This means, just for instance, that there's a shitty icon for the library... I made a comedy album library, Plex. Steve Martin the banjo player and Steven Martin the comedian are the same human, but I don't want one album recommended as related to the other. And I don't want to see the little music note icon for the library either. Think of audio as "audio that can have many types" rather than music. It's the same with images... what if I want to have a library full of van Gogh's works? Why are you trying to mix these in with pictures of my nieces?

      >Also, they could handle audiobooks since they already stream music.

      But they can't, not really. Because they think all audio is music, their interface doesn't handle it... no one wants to randomize the play order of the chapters of a book. And they'd actually like to keep a bookmark of where they stopped listening. But because "all audio is music" their model is fundamentally broken.

      >When I use my e-reader, I like features like highlighting, taking notes, dictionaries, and other features that are more complicated that just streaming rendered images from a book.

      Well, if they implemented it correctly, it wouldn't be exactly "streaming images from a book". And they already do stuff with related media in a sophisticated fashion. If you want to see the trailers and making-ofs for a a movie, those are available right from the menu. Dictionaries or highlighting or note-taking just isn't that big of a deal. They could do it, they don't want to. They'd rather be a streaming service.