Comment by zhdc1

11 days ago

East coast cities were built before modern building codes.

Something that, for some reason, people in the states don't want to accept is that - when given the choice - the vast majority of people prefer living in dense urban environments.

OP addresses that. Japan is not particularly dense, especially outside of core downtowns.

You see the same dynamics in London and Paris.

People do not "prefer to live in dense urban environments" by urbanist standards.

They prefer to live in dense urban environments by North American standards, which can still be far less dense than urbanists really want.

  • > which can still be far less dense than urbanists really want.

    And this was my comparison?

    • May be an assumption on my part, but the language "people prefer to live in dense urban environment" is typical of urbanism-boosters - who definitely push a lot online that leads one to believe that anything less than inner Tokyo is unacceptable.

  • > People do not "prefer to live in dense urban environments" by urbanist standards.

    Nobody wants to live there, it's too crowded and there's too much demand for housing! Oh wait, that makes no sense.

>the vast majority of people prefer living in dense urban environments.

The vast majority of people REQUIRE to live NEAR their employment which happens to be in cities.

Look what happened to NYC real estate rent when you gave people the choice of NOT doing that. Look what happens when you force them back to the office, they come back, but not by choice.

It takes under a minute to find reputable sources which say that something on the order of 3 out 4 people prefer a suburban city environment. The remainder splits between preferring rural or dense urban.