Comment by Nursie

9 hours ago

Oh right - that's probably what we did, buy a big pack from behind the counter.

I don't think you can even do that in the UK.

Yeah we usually have a few packs hanging around, and I get the 'it seems stupid' thing, but sometimes just adding a tiny bit of friction when someone's trying to kill themselves might save a life. I dunno, I hope that's shown in the evidence anyway. Otherwise it's just pointless like the whole pseudoephedrine song and dance, which has inconvenienced anyone looking for a decongestant while doing sweet FA to the availability of meth.

> Oh right - that's probably what we did, buy a big pack from behind the counter.

No, when you visited they were still on the shelf. They only put them behind the counter in 2025.

> sometimes just adding a tiny bit of friction when someone's trying to kill themselves might save a life

I'm philosophically not for making suicide harder. If someone wants to die, that's their right. And practically, while you might be able to show a stat-sig decrease in paracetamol poisoning, I'd expect the suicides to largely just move to other methods.

> I hope that's shown in the evidence anyway

tl;dr: Yes

Paraphrasing from [0], after September 1998 when the restriction was introduced, "The annual number of deaths from paracetamol poisoning decreased by 21% [...] the number from salicylates decreased by 48% [...] Liver transplant rates after paracetamol poisoning decreased by 66% [...] The rate of non-fatal self poisoning with paracetamol in any form decreased by 11%"

See also [1]: "in the 11 years following the legislation there were an estimated 765 fewer suicide and open verdict deaths from paracetamol poisoning, which represented a reduction of 43% [...] This reduction was largely unaltered after controlling for a downward trend in deaths involving other methods of poisoning and also suicides by all methods."

[0] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC31616/

[1] https://www.psych.ox.ac.uk/research/research-groups/csr/rese...