Comment by Ancalagon

19 hours ago

Re:

> If America’s so rich how’d it get so sad

> https://www.derekthompson.org/p/if-americas-so-rich-howd-it-...

America is rich, but that money is spent on new problems we invented for ourselves. We subsidize farmers growing unhealthy foods, then subsidize buying those unhealthy foods through food stamps. Then we subsidize healthcare to address the consequences of extra obesity.

Single-use zoning makes it illegal to build the places people want to go within walking distance of where they live, so we spend trillions over decades building car infrastructure to allow people to commute. Of course the consequences of commuting by car is more pollution and less exercise, again causing health issues.

  • The richer a country becomes the more expensive everything gets.

    The average house price in my country is now 400k eurodollars. And banks keep giving out loans.

Huh, did anything happen in 2020? I'm wracking my brains trying to think of anything.

  • As the article touches on, it's not just about what happened in 2020, but why it hasn't rebounded. It's been long enough we can't use 2020 as an excuse.

    • Similarly, I roll my eyes when people still blame Ronald Reagan for the current homeless situation in California. There's been plenty of time to correct that mistake and well???

      But honestly, IMO America has become a joyless, directionless dystopia of soma and bread and circuses in the middle of a geopolitical knife fight to define the 21st century and maybe even hit the singularity. I'm not happy with the current management, but it was the same unhappy bunch talked about here that decided by voting or opting not to vote that gave it a second shot. Kinda deserve this, no? If no, I'm all ears for your one weird trick to fix America, go for it!

      Yeah I know, downvotes incoming for such heresy. If you don't pick a side, then what are you even doing?

    • It's the housing prices and the affordability of life in general. We are all debt slaves now. I am 100% using 2020 as an excuse because it broke the market and sent housing prices up 50%+ in 6 months.

      The fact that we are entertaining 50 year mortgages as a "solution" further adds insult to injury.

      Nobody talks about how the "cure" was worse than the disease in 2020. Happiness matters and is worth dying for.

It's well known since ancient times that money doesn't buy happiness.

  • That’s just what people with money tell the people without money to stop them from rioting. We have research that suggests that money indeed does buy happiness.

    https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/does-money-buy-h...

    There are exceptions of course. Some people are just predisposed to being unhappy no matter the circumstances, but generally speaking more money directly correlates to increased life contentment.

    • I think it's a bit more nuanced than that. As I understand it, happiness increases for most people as their income increases. However, this doesn't mean that a person is happy overall since there are other factors. So, it's not that money can buy happiness in a binary sense, but it's a factor and often a significant one.

      The article even ends with this quote from one of the authors of the study (emphasis added):

      “Money is not the secret to happiness, but it can probably help a bit.”

  • It sure as shit buys relief from lots of sources of stress (even little ones like "having, non-optionally, to track how many dollars of goods are in your shopping cart at the grocery store" or "having to check how much money's in the account before you start pumping gas") and credible safety from various very-real threats (e.g. homelessness, not being able to afford important medical treatment). Like, it's extremely good at that.

    It buys actual non-hypothetical liberty, as in greater choice to do what you like with your time and your self. It relieves one from unpleasant but necessary tasks (by paying someone else to do them).

  • Maybe but this happiness chart seems to reflect economic recessions (including some unofficial ones)

  • The thing is that Americans don’t have much money. A few billion and millionaires skew the numbers horribly.

    The average American ain’t doing very well by OECD standards… literally bottom of the ladder.