Comment by kevin_thibedeau

16 hours ago

Can Deepseek answer probing questions about Winnie the Pooh?

What are you using LLMs for? To learn about world’s politics? Oh boy I have a news for you…

  • One of the first things I did when openAI came out was asking it "which active politican is a spy?" - and it was blocked from the start.

    I asked early, at the time people were posting various jailbreaks, never worked.

    On a side note, any self hosted model I can get for my PC? I have 96 GB of RAM.

Do you often find yourself asking your Chinese employees what they think about Winnie the Pooh?

Is it subject to CCP censorship? Maybe.

  • It's fun to pretend the US models have no censorship constraints.

    • US models align with our "average" (western) values. If we outsource thinking by using LLMs, why would we outsource it to an LLM that doesn't have our values encoded in it?

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    • I remember asking Gemini about that one famous 9/11 joke from late Norm MacDonald and it got really iffy about answering. Told it that hey I'm not american and in our culture it's not such a taboo.

      But yes, they do have similar constraints.

Yeah, I specifically asked it about it. It seemed less censored than Gemini, back when it appeared and the latter was quite useless.

It understands everything in thinking mode and will break down its rule system in adhering to Chinese regulation

So if you or anyone passing by was curious, yes you can get accurate output about the Chinese head of state and political and critical messages of him, China and the party

Its final answer will not play along

If you want an unfiltered answer on that topic, just triage it to a western model, if you want unfiltered answers on Israel domestic and foreign policy, triage back to an eastern model. You know the rules for each system and so does an LLM