Comment by refulgentis

"Deepseek v4 is good enough, really really good given the price it is offered at."

Kimi, MiMo, and GLM 5.1 all score higher and are cheaper.

They all came out before DeepSeek v4. I think you're pattern-matching on last year's discourse.

(I haven't seen other replies, yet, but I assume they explain the PS that amounts to "quality doesn't matter anyway": which still doesn't address the fact it's more expensive and worse.)