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Comment by BatteryMountain

21 hours ago

I'm on this path too. Waiting a few more months to see what happens. If they indeed block my 4 apps on my phone (which aren't published anywhere), I will simply move to Apple.

You should switch to GrapheneOS instead.

  • You mean buy a Google Pixel?

    How many people can afford one?

    • In the USA, I think most people can easily afford a Pixel 9a at $56/year of device support starting from today.

      Calculator checks yearly cost based on device support: (https://ibb.co/xq82YQCw)

      Sources for device lifetime from calculator: (https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-lifetime)

      I used a New+Unlocked+Pixel+X on eBay to find a rough price of the phone.

      Most people get scammed by their carrier and pay $25-45 per month just for their wireless subscription, and many more get caught up in the device bundles which gets you the "latest and greatest", at a huge price. So people are paying, per month, what you can pay, per year for a Pixel.

      You can use Silent Link to pay by the gigabyte with no expiration date. Most people don't need unlimited—I use a maximum of 5 GB per month, and my average is around 3. At $1.60 per month, that is $60 per YEAR for me.

      Swap in https://jmp.chat for another 60 dollars per year for calls/texts and you get a $120/year phone bill which is just $10/month.

      I will be moving from US Mobile to Jmp.chat once my plan expires.

      You could also use US Mobile for $17/month which is unlimited and is user friendly. They also often have Pixels for a significant discount with no lock-in.

    • I bought an 8a new when it launched for the express purpose of installing GOS. It cost like $450, and will last me most of a decade. If you are using a phone that costs significantly less than that (and I am speaking from personal experience! I had an Obamaphone that I got at a foodbank for many years, as well as a number of crappy used Androids!) your phone storage is so limiting that you are struggling to install more than a few apps.

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    • I get you. I used to buy Nexus devices as well as some of the first Pixels, until at some point the prices shot up to ridiculous levels for a phone and I went with other brands.

      Last year though the Pixel 8a was selling for 350€ and I got one. Luckily, given the recent developments. Will be installing GrapheneOS.

    • That's £105-£150 for first two pixels 6a on ebay.

      If you consider getting iPhone you DEFINITELY can afford something much newer than that.

    • Don't have pixels in my country. Apple only alternative. And a bunch of chinese brands which I wont touch in this scenario

Will your 4 unpublished apps be in your android-alternative apple device?

Android will still have the ability to install non-google-distributed programs. The problem is the ominous momentum, but it is still more open than the apple alternative

  • I'm not the commenter you replied to, but I'm doing the same math they are and coming up with the same answer.

    From my perspective iOS is better than Android in a number of ways but Android always won out overall for me, in large part because of the freedom regarding software. Remove that freedom from the equation, I think the balance tips towards iOS.

    • I always wonder what these unspecified ways that iOS is better than Android actually are.

      These posts always have a few comments like that, but they never actually say what they find to be better on iOS.

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  • Its more about the principle for me.I know I can jump through hoops for google but I prefer to say no-thank-you.

    The long term fear/plan for google is that they know they days of SAAS and Apps are obsolete. People will just write their own platforms, apps, websites all from scratch using AI, which means the app stores becomes obsolete, which means no more ad revenue from shitty ads and no more control and unfettered tracking of your behaviour. AI will make these guys obsolete, they know it, this is them fighting back.