Comment by sysguest

14 hours ago

hmm isn't the whole thing a continuation of "revenge against hamas's attack on Oct 7th 2023" ?

hamas being a proxy to iran, I don't get why people think iran as some "peace loving, innocent country"

well, are they?

raping/killing some *foreigners* and displaying their bodies as parade...

well that's not very "peace loving and innocent" is it?

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huntertwo  14 hours ago

When you make a ceasefire and then strike first, that’s called being the aggressor.

How many civilians has Israel killed since oct 7? When is it enough?

Israel killed >50k civilians since October 7 between all the conflicts

Revenge is not a justification for destroying civilizations.

Israelis also rape, kill, and do other vile things to prisoners, innocent or guilty, who they imprison with or without charge.

  • grumple  6 hours ago

    > When you make a ceasefire and then strike first, that’s called being the aggressor.

    Oh boy, let me tell you about October 7th. Attacks by Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, and Iran followed. Oh, and half a dozen other Palestinian groups were involved in 10/7 but they don't like to talk about that.

    > How many civilians has Israel killed since oct 7? When is it enough?

    Probably not too far off from how many Iran has killed in the same timeframe (of course, they are killing their own). Iran killed 30,000 of their own just this year.

    And just so we're clear, Iran supported Hezbollah in Lebanon and Syria, and the Houthis in Yemen, both or whom are responsible for easily 10x as many deaths as Israel (total). The civil wars in Lebanon and Syria left millions dead, and the one in Yemen also resulted in hundreds of thousands dead.

  • sysguest  13 hours ago

    > Israelis also rape, kill, and do other vile things to prisoners, innocent or guilty, who they imprison with or without charge.

    well but do israelis parade their dead rape victims openly?

    > When you make a ceasefire and then strike first

    well that's between trump and iran? did netanyahu agree?

    I agree that netanyahu is being a dick here: he should have focused on iran, instead of invading lebanon. That alone is a huge political/PR mistake

    but... how's that ceasefire related? is israel a proxy of usa? does Trump control israel directly?

    Ethically, the israel politicians goes at great length NOT to damage civilians: the walkie-talkie bomb is a classic example of "try to kill all the militants WITHOUT carpet bombing"

    (though they failed to "kill all" with that scheme, and... well they did bomb a lot after that)

    • krige  12 hours ago

      > well but do israelis parade their dead rape victims openly?

      1) why is that an important distinction?

      2) but since you asked, they do, western media just refuse to show it but all you need to do is follow a bunch of israeli instagram accounts and you'll see more than enough sooner rather than later

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