Comment by wat10000

1 day ago

Ever think that maybe it’s not the deportations that are the problem, but the murders and other human rights abuses?

And the fact that there was a lot of fanfare over Snowden rather undermines your point. People did make a big deal about it. It didn’t go anywhere because at the end of the day, the establishment on both sides is in favor of that stuff. It didn’t get any more action after Obama left office.

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lostmsu  1 day ago

News like "a child dying from a rare form of cancer is deported" only got popular (including on HN) during Trump's latest term.

  • wat10000  1 day ago

    Was it “got deported”? Or was it “got deported despite being a citizen,” or “was arrested and held in a prison without necessary medical care”?

znpy  1 day ago

I’m pretty sure that if people had tried to obstruct the law in a similar manner there would have been similar death. And unlike today, there was pretty much no bodycam at the time.

Regarding the fanfare… yeah sure big deal… and yet, here we are, with ubiquitous surveillance whose ground work was laid out during the obama administration.

  • advael  1 day ago

    Multiple independent and credible sources including documents from within the DHS show a deliberate strategy of terrorizing and harming civilians who have done nothing illegal, and numerous serious and sometimes lethal cases of violence against protestors (protest is in fact supposed to be legal) and just random people, as well as spurious immigration arrests to meet unreasonable quotas, cruel and inhumane conditions in the holding facilities they've rushed to build to support all this, and a general lack of due process and proportionality throughout all of this. You are uncritically repeating state propaganda

  • wat10000  21 hours ago

    People tend to get outraged at actual events, not hypotheticals. Smartphones were ubiquitous by the end of the Obama administration, cameras aplenty.