Comment by sillysaurusx
3 days ago
And yet he’s having an effect. Are either of you pledging $10k to defend hackers in court?
I can hardly believe headlines like these are met with anything but cheers. It’s literally the hacker spirit in the classical sense: a big company is trying to legally threaten a project offline, and people like Louis are helping prevent that.
You could at least throw in a “it’s cool that he’s pledging money” before insulting his channel. And if his channel wasn’t as political as it is, it’s doubtful he could rally the kind of support we’re seeing here.
> I can hardly believe headlines like these are met with anything but cheers.
My point is that I have an issue with his tone and rhetoric, not with the thing he’s advocating.
He appeals to a certain audience that likes rage over proper discourse. I am fairly certain the HN etiquette prefers proper discourse over rage.
It seems to me you're style over substance then.
The comment at the top of this thread was literally defending Rossmann based on his style (passionate, vulnerable) over his substance (factual accuracy)
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> My point is that I have an issue with his tone and rhetoric, not with the thing he’s advocating.
This is often a hand wavy excuse by people who simply don’t agree with a cause and/or think it’s not important, but won’t admit it. If you don’t think what he is advocating for is important just say so. If you do, support him. You can’t possibly believe he’s so out of line that it’s worth prioritizing that opinion over the cause itself.
To be clear: I really do agree with his message, and I appreciate the tremendous impact he has had in the right to repair, DRM and all these things. So in that sense, I support him.
It’s just that his style is really appalling to me. Am I not allowed to criticize his style while at the same time supporting his stance?
I think it’s unfair to then imply I must not be admitting that I’m against his cause and using it as an excuse, because nothing I have said indicated this.
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I, for one, appreciate communication that has a point of view, one that actually champions an ethical opinion and calls out unethical behavior. I don't think doing this necessarily counts as rage. If I wanted to read a "proper" dry, impartial dissertation on some technology, written by Spock, there are plenty of places online to do this.
I don’t need to hire hackers to use my 3d printer. It just works.
The hackers did the work for free upfront. In return they only expect that everyone could share the fruit.
> Are either of you pledging $10k to defend hackers in court?
Sure, I’ll pledge $10K to the developer who already declared that he’s not interested in fighting a legal battle for this project. That’s easy.
> Sure I'll post a snarky comment without getting familiar with the subject whatsoever.
The bounties are real and awarded [1].
[1] https://bounties.fulu.org/bounties?status=closed
I searched for Bambu and there were 0 results.
Also that site is a disaster of a UI. It reloads on every single character entry while you’re trying to type in the search term.
Also please don’t fake-quote other people with things they didn’t say:
> > Sure I'll post a snarky comment without getting familiar with the subject whatsoever.
It’s even worse when you haven’t become familiar enough with the subject to share a worthwhile link.