Comment by annoyingnoob

17 hours ago

Single WAN, Single LAN, is not actually what I would (or do) use for "home-based self-hosting". That hosted stuff gets its own network.

that is what vlans are for. but having only gigabit ports is limiting here.

  • RISC-V is quite wimpy this far, so it’s not even clear if it can saturate a gigabit with features turned on. The one benefit is that it doesn’t have Intel IME/AMT, AMD PSP or ARM TrustZone backdoors built-in, but I would be extremely surprised if the Chinese SpaceMiT CPU didn’t have Chinese backdoors of its own.

    • > it’s not even clear if it can saturate a gigabit

      If that's the case then it's not the CPU's fault. I can't open the linked site but assuming it's really the same as a BPI-F3 i.e. a SpacemiT K1 chip, that can do 2.8 GB/sec on large RAM to RAM memcpy using a CPU core i.e. 44 Gbps total, 22 Gbps each read and write. Plus I assume it's got DMA so no need to involve the CPU anyway.

      Here is a test I ran in April 2025 on a Sipeed LicheePi 3A same chip).

      https://hoult.org/K1_memcpy.txt

      > RISC-V is quite wimpy this far

      The new K3 chip from the same manufacturer does 8.7 GB/s RAM to RAM memcpy using a dual issue in-order A100 ("AI") core, just over 3x faster.

      Sure this pales in comparison to recent Apple / Intel / AMD but it's a lot faster than home networking.

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    • > The one benefit is that it doesn’t have Intel IME/AMT, AMD PSP or ARM TrustZone backdoors built-in, but I would be extremely surprised if the Chinese SpaceMiT CPU didn’t have Chinese backdoors of its own.

      That seems worth paying for. How could china hurt me more than my own government?

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  • I helped a bit to develop this UI myself. Support for vlans was baked into it from day 1. The idea being good admin/guest/iot/hosted/etc separation without extra access points.

    • It still means you're permanently hassled with sticking a switch next to it.

      Yes it's not a requirement per se to include an ethernet switch chip on the board. But at a $300 price tag I'll say it does become a failing.

  • VLANs would appear to defeat the ease of use aspect here. Plus that means you need managed switches, and know how to use them.