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Comment by foltik

2 hours ago

> Attestation isn't against being able to do whatever you want with your own device.

“Prison isn’t against being able to go wherever you want.”

> There are many changes that are possible which do not harm the integrity of applications.

“Well there’s a lot of places you can go in prison, you just can’t leave.”

Uh-huh.

> In the same way the user can't make their device have the Microsoft Word app send them $1 million from Microsoft's bank account.

This is completely incoherent. You and I both know that a bank refusing to give away someone else’s money has nothing to do with being able to run whatever code and operating systems we want to on our own devices.

Obviously the decision happens on some remote server which would require a username and password to authorize. It doesn’t matter one bit what piece of code sent it over.

>“Prison isn’t against being able to go wherever you want.”

This isn't a good analogy since the user really able to do whatever they want with their computer. A better analogy is that. "You can go wherever you want, but if you are trespassing on other people's property they can report you to the police." Just because you have the freedom to go anywhere does not mean you are not accountable for your actions or that people should not be able to tell that you are trespassing.

>has nothing to do with being able to run whatever code and operating systems we want to on our own devices.

My point is that one's freedom of how they want one's computer to work does not mean they can force other people's server to run code they want. Microsoft is in control of what there servers do.