Comment by cactusplant7374

5 hours ago

Let's talk specifics. Codex limits are very generous and developers care greatly about access to affordable compute.

That's like rewinding to 2015 and saying "Uber prices [versus Lyft] are very fair and riders care greatly about access to affordable transportation"

Let's not pretend that any company will keep unsustainable limits forever. You can go to codex for free compute; they will enshittify the moment they build a meaningful lead over their competitors

After seeing the whole internet being enshittified I'm still shocked people don't see through these very transparent tactics that every tech company has employed since 2012 or so.

  • This is true of course and I don’t think these heavily subsidized plans will be around forever, but at the same time OpenAI is just less compute constrained than Anthropic right now as well so they’re in a stronger position to be able to offer these subsidies.

    GPT models are also generally more token efficient right now and that helps too — you can go a lot further on a $20 subscription with Codex than Claude Code as a result of this.

    Ultimately I think many day to day tasks just need to shift away from the latest frontier models towards models that are faster, cheaper, and still perform well enough & you can phase out subsidies while keeping total cost reasonable.

    • Ever since limits were doubled I never really ran into them on Claude code, but I get where you're coming from.

      Personally if I don't need a frontier model I use a local LLM. Or one of the Chinese ones through OpenRouter.