Comment by overfeed
1 day ago
> Never heard of this from AWS or Azure.
AWS does it more efficiently; it takes down many startups at a time when us-east-1 goes down.
1 day ago
> Never heard of this from AWS or Azure.
AWS does it more efficiently; it takes down many startups at a time when us-east-1 goes down.
That’s an entirely different type of problem, and avoidable by just using us-east-2 (I still don’t understand why people default to us-east-1 unless they require some highly specific services).
Is it that easily avoidable? A lot of AWS's control plane seems to have dependencies on us-east-1, or at least that's what it's looked like as a non-us-east-1 user during recent outages.
I don't know how much it's improved, but a bunch of URLs they use unnecessarily have region specific details in them.
I remember a Workspaces outage about 5 or 6 years ago, and the problem for us was that the redirect link in the console had US East 1 in it.
The workspaces themselves weren't in US East 1 and nothing relied on US East 1.
Emailing users who needed it an alternative link with a different region in the URL for the login redirect fixed it for us.
Sympathy. Railway is going to have numerous people blaming them for this outage. When us-east-1 fails, it is headline news, so you are not to blame.
If my cloud provider brings my startup down, it's my problem. If they bring all the startups down, that's their problem.
During my 5 years of my startup, we had only 1 outage due to AWS because we picked us-west-2 as the primary reason. If anyone starting a company and picks us-east-1 as the primary reason, they should be fired. There's absolutely no reason to be in that region.
Why do people want to be in that region? Is it the default or something?
I know some workloads help to be colocated but all these places are connected by fiber and every cloud has a worldwide CDN it seems.
At some point it used to be significantly cheaper than any other AWS region in the world. Not sure if that's still true.
> Why do people want to be in that region? Is it the default or something?
It's one of the oldest and largest regions. It hosts the most services, both low-level platform stuff and higher level managed services (which run on the low-level platform stuff), so services tend to be more performant.
Geographic location is also good.
Also, due to scale their pricing ends up being cheaper.
Let's say that it's the region people use by default, unless they have a compelling reason to have a presence in any other particular region.
And we all celebrate it since we can't do any work