Comment by samlinnfer

6 hours ago

Sorry it's still not clear what he means? When a CPU is "broken", is it already failing or is it "broken" in the sense it will fail?

For example:

Does he mean all existing 13th/14th gen CPUs (prior to Intel's discovery of the vmin issue) are broken in the sense that they are susceptible to damage and can only be replaced.

OR

Does he mean that the microcode updates, applied by Intel to existing CPUs that are susceptible to damage, will only slow degradation and the CPUs will eventually fail and can only be replaced.

OR

Is he saying the 13th/14th gen CPUs which have already sustained damage, cannot be fixed by microcode updates.

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websg-x  5 hours ago

Only the desktop 8p+16e cores(13600/700/900,14600/700/900)k are susceptible. The CPUs are safe with the fixed bios/microcode. The notebook version of 8p+16e CPUs are also safe from vmin shift since notebook computer cannot go insane with voltage.

If the CPU is damaged already, the new microcode wont fixed the problem. It broken. You have to RMA the CPU.

The vmin shift instability is fixed. There are no new report of mass failures of 13th/14th gen CPUs after the new bios/microcode release.