Comment by defrost

5 hours ago

If you share your prompt and model that created your summary then HN users can make their own hot take summary sub summaries.

ehhh, the model doesn't matter as much, the summary appears to be accurate (you can ctrl+f for keywords like "slavery", then see what's being said on the subject)

so for example with "Just War" we see this passage:

> it is important to reaffirm that the “just war” theory, which has all too often been used to justify any kind of war, is now outdated.

This would clearly be thought to be an error from a Catholic viewpoint, because the right to wage "justified war" comes from the individual right to self-defense, as applied to a collective group of people legitimately defending against aggression (maybe lots of people here for example would argue Ukraine is legitimately justified in waging defensive war against Russia, for example).

Hence while it is good to promote peaceful resolutions of conflict, the document goes too far in condemning legitimate self-defense.

(So while the whole long document likely says correct things about AI and the dignity of work, it also adds in things like the above that Catholics would clearly reject. Typically Catholics would accept what a pope is writing so if you're getting someone who claims to be pope teaching erroneously, this points to a bigger problem for Catholics.)

  • I do not think that self-defense of an invading force is what just war theory is concerned with. The passage also says it is outdated, not that the doctrine is abrogated.

    • It's true that self-defense is not the only case where arguments have been made for justification for war but I think it's the most common:

      > Catholic philosophy, therefore, concedes to the State the full natural right of war, whether defensive, as in case of another's attack in force upon it; offensive (more properly, coercive), where it finds it necessary to take the initiative in the application of force; or punitive, in the infliction of punishment for evil done against itself or, in some determined cases, against others.

      "War" entry: newadvent.org/cathen/15546c.htm

      By calling Catholic teaching "outdated", this sounds like the heresy of modernism (even if outright "abolition" isn't mentioned) - since for example these "older" teachings are directly applicable to current conflicts (people here might support Ukraine's right to defend against Russia, for example, under theories of justifications for war)

      "Modernism": https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10415a.htm