Comment by cyanydeez

4 hours ago

Presidents through out American history has believed various forms of genocide and slavery were applicable practices to modern problems; hell the current president thinks variously incredulous things.

So you know, you might want to adjust your measuring stick before you critique people.

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dylan604  4 hours ago

Both things can be true at the same time, so shutting down the critique (possibly because it is critiquing something you like??) just because another critique can be made is not a good counter argument

  • watwut  4 hours ago

    In that case, the Pope does not believe "wine turns to blood if you say things to it."

    That claims is, very simply, a lie.

    • Ardren  4 hours ago

      It's actually litterally true.

      https://www.vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/arch...

      283

      > Transubstantiation means the change of the whole substance of bread into the substance of the Body of Christ and of the whole substance of wine into the substance of his Blood. This change is brought about in the eucharistic prayer through the efficacy of the word of Christ and by the action of the Holy Spirit. However, the outward characteristics of bread and wine, that is the “eucharistic species”, remain unaltered.

      Edit: It's a catholic thing, and it's very silly (other denominations say its symbolic)

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totobrechi  4 hours ago

Lets not forget the hideous acts that this church has commited against young men and children in america. This would the last place I'd accept leadership advise from.

This message is not focused on u.s or its presidents. Its focused on leadership world wide.

  • SecretDreams  4 hours ago

    The people best suited to give advice on how AI should be used, distributed, and controlled are probably those disconnected from the profit structure of AI.

boxed  4 hours ago

Their excuse was that they lived a long time ago when people were idiots. What's the popes excuse today?

Ardren  4 hours ago

> Presidents through out American history has believed various forms of genocide and slavery were applicable practices to modern problems; hell the current president thinks variously incredulous things.

And we shouldn't criticize them? Is that the point?

krapp  4 hours ago

Both American presidents and Abrahamic faiths have, historically, justified slavery and genocide (and often by the same pretense.)

And the current President's ridiculous beliefs are just as ridiculous as believing in transubstantiation. Believing angels manifest on Earth and intercede in human affairs is no more rational believing that aliens are manifesting on Earth but are really demons, which Catholic VP JD Vance believes. The former is just more culturally accepted, and thus given the weight of dignity, but both are valid as far as a naive and literalist interpretation of the Bible is concerned, because demons exist in the Bible, but not aliens.

Either way, as much as the Pope is a silly man in a silly hat looking like a fucking wizard who is required to believe in supernatural nonsense while leading a corrupt den of pedophiles, he's also absolutely and objectively correct on this specific topic and it's clear he's put far more researched thought into his opinions on AI than 99% of people on HN. Hell, he even apologized for the Church's historical support of slavery, and many people here won't even concede that slavery was ever a problem.

  • totobrechi  3 hours ago

    The only significance here with history is we don't repeat it. There is no reason ever concede anything. Its akin to dwelling on indians introducing americans to tobacco. No group of people in the future should be judge on peoples beliefs or indiscretions. There is no connection.