Comment by tptacek

3 hours ago

I brought up nmap. You said you'd expect respected SOC2 auditors to reject it. I don't just think that's not true, I know it not to be true.

I know, that’s already established. I already acknowledged we had different experiences. I have no idea what you’re pushing for at that point

  • Just to clarify, this is a bugbear of mine. It's nothing personal with you, but I've spent the last 6 years or so evangelizing the idea that people should minimize their SOC2s and not get pushed around by auditors or evidence collection platforms like Vanta, because that drives a lot of terrible security engineering, and the hypercompetent best-staffed security orgs in the industry all push their SOC2 auditors around.

    Compliance and security are entirely different practices in a well-run firm. Security can inform compliance. Compliance should not inform security engineering.

    If you search my name and "SOC2" in the search bar below, I've expanded on this quite a bit.

    • As just one data point here, let me say thank you for all your writing on it; it was super useful to have things to point at to say “we don’t have to just blindly do a thing the auditor suggested!” for our SOC2.

  • tptacek just hates soc. its probably not personal.

    • We got some value from it! I just think it's important to remember what it actually is, rather than axiomatically deriving what you think it should be.