Comment by prodigycorp
9 days ago
How realistic is this:
Chinese models incidentally slurps up some terms that lead them to finding unflattering words that you wrote about the CCP in a random journal entry, or maybe a social media csv export. You go to China one day and are denied entry due to what you said.
Realistic or no? (yes i know the us is getting bad in re. to what you write online as well)
Models hosted in China are a siren call that I don't feel bad about resisting.
This statement makes no sense, because you literally said the "US is getting bad". We already gave up all of our data, if you wrote something about the CCP you should already expect they know about it.
Besides that, the us govt already has all your data and yet people are criticising it all around, in the open. They can, without repercussions, because the us is a free country.
Chinese people can’t really do the same.
Well, at least for the Chinese models you can run them locally vs. the US models that requires you to go through their servers. But to answer your question:
> How realistic is this:
Completely unrealistic unless you are a high value target (journalist, spy, business man, etc...)
China knows tourists are not Chinese; that's why when you visit China your non-Chinese SIM card silently bypasses the Great Firewall when you use roaming data.
Besides, the Chinese government doesn't really care about individual criticisms, even in public, especially in languages other than Chinese. What they really care about censoring is attempts to organize collective action. They don't care about personal opinions stated in the blog posts of tourists, let alone diary entries.
I really like the US model of free speech, at it's best. It feels natural and right to me. It would be cool if Chinese people had stronger freedom of political speech— I'd love to hear Chinese people publicly share their thoughts online without restraint or censorship; it's a huge country with a lot of smart people with diverse opinions.
But maybe you should go visit China sooner rather than later, tbf. It's friendlier and weirder and more interesting than you think, including w/r/t the censorship regime.
This may be true about any models hosted by others than you.
At least the Xiaomi models are open weights and you can host them yourself, avoiding such concerns.
https://immpolicytracking.org/policies/reported-french-scien...
> CBP denies travelers entry because of anti-Trump comments
China won't deny entry for anti-Trump comments, guess I'll use MiMo
China also won't deny entry for anti-Israel comments, so even more reason to use MiMo.
You're projecting the US doing this with criticism of Trump and Israel on China, when there's no proof of China ever doing something like this.