Winch Design [0], which have built some of the world's largest superyachts [1], seem to be using AutoCad. [2] Afaik it's also the same with Lürssen (but don't quote me on that)
Those tools are used in ways that they're integral to processes. They have their equivalents of ticket systems that are linked to code repositories with LFSs and bunch of IDE type tools and automated and manual test systems and build systems. Their equivalents of PR discussions and Selenium screenshots needs to check all boxes in the right ways for legal and traceability purposes.
Without all that might be $175/user/month but you're not shipping apps with just vi and bare gcc.
Except LLM's even with Vision are still useless at AutoCAD let alone Revit (please dont quote SCAD LLM's at me, useless). Knowledge based approaches still win.
I might agree "AutoCAD" is the current level LLM's are at, but wait until your design departments discovers "Revit", its another ballpark (in wasted cots, engineers on site still get "clashes").
Revit costs are high, and the end results are marginally better - but local LLM's tokens are cheaper 24/7 at "AutoCAD" level - "Revit" level tokens will make Ubers CTO/COO weep harder than they already do. While producing results no better than "Revit" does (engineers still face "clashes").
As someone completely outside the 3D design world who always thought of AutoCAD as the gold standard - really? What program would be used instead? Please enlighten me.
Cadence and Ansys have entered the chat. A bunch of other highly-specialized engineering software has entered the chat. Licenses are on the order of 10-100k/seat.
I guess we are welcoming the software people to the world of expensive tools. Just sad that the FOSS alternatives of these tools are not as powerful whereas software industry still has FOSS tools to fall back on.
AutoCAD is still the budget-friendly CAD program it has always been. You don't build big boats in AutoCAD.
Winch Design [0], which have built some of the world's largest superyachts [1], seem to be using AutoCad. [2] Afaik it's also the same with Lürssen (but don't quote me on that)
[0] https://winchdesign.com/ [1] https://www.superyachts.com/directory/1516/winch-design/flee... [2] https://www.autodesk.com/design-make/articles/naval-architec...
Likely not the "base model" of AutoCAD.
Those tools are used in ways that they're integral to processes. They have their equivalents of ticket systems that are linked to code repositories with LFSs and bunch of IDE type tools and automated and manual test systems and build systems. Their equivalents of PR discussions and Selenium screenshots needs to check all boxes in the right ways for legal and traceability purposes.
Without all that might be $175/user/month but you're not shipping apps with just vi and bare gcc.
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Except LLM's even with Vision are still useless at AutoCAD let alone Revit (please dont quote SCAD LLM's at me, useless). Knowledge based approaches still win.
I might agree "AutoCAD" is the current level LLM's are at, but wait until your design departments discovers "Revit", its another ballpark (in wasted cots, engineers on site still get "clashes").
Revit costs are high, and the end results are marginally better - but local LLM's tokens are cheaper 24/7 at "AutoCAD" level - "Revit" level tokens will make Ubers CTO/COO weep harder than they already do. While producing results no better than "Revit" does (engineers still face "clashes").
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As someone completely outside the 3D design world who always thought of AutoCAD as the gold standard - really? What program would be used instead? Please enlighten me.
Cadence and Ansys have entered the chat. A bunch of other highly-specialized engineering software has entered the chat. Licenses are on the order of 10-100k/seat.
For a pretty funny comment about pricing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/chipdesign/comments/1ajrli2/cadence...
Glad to run into this after some time!
I guess we are welcoming the software people to the world of expensive tools. Just sad that the FOSS alternatives of these tools are not as powerful whereas software industry still has FOSS tools to fall back on.