Comment by amilios 1 day ago But if the closed-source models can do this without the additional effort, that's a significant gap, no? 7 comments amilios Reply bigfishrunning 1 day ago See that's the thing, they can't. Every model needs hand holding and guidance. amilios 1 day ago some require less hand-holding than others though myaccountonhn 8 hours ago No one is trying to argue that OS models are better than Opus 4.7. It's simply that they're good enough and cheaper. 10000truths 1 day ago The point is that the price gap is so much larger than the capability gap, that even with the extra compute needed to make up for the lack of capability, you can still come out ahead in terms of amortized $/work done. flexagoon 1 day ago Is it really when they are hundreds of times more expensive? eikenberry 1 day ago That is the 3-6 month sota-open gap people talk about, a time-window that continues to move as new models are released on both sides. grttq 20 hours ago Do you know what economic trade offs are?Both implicit and explicit..?
bigfishrunning 1 day ago See that's the thing, they can't. Every model needs hand holding and guidance. amilios 1 day ago some require less hand-holding than others though myaccountonhn 8 hours ago No one is trying to argue that OS models are better than Opus 4.7. It's simply that they're good enough and cheaper.
amilios 1 day ago some require less hand-holding than others though myaccountonhn 8 hours ago No one is trying to argue that OS models are better than Opus 4.7. It's simply that they're good enough and cheaper.
myaccountonhn 8 hours ago No one is trying to argue that OS models are better than Opus 4.7. It's simply that they're good enough and cheaper.
10000truths 1 day ago The point is that the price gap is so much larger than the capability gap, that even with the extra compute needed to make up for the lack of capability, you can still come out ahead in terms of amortized $/work done.
eikenberry 1 day ago That is the 3-6 month sota-open gap people talk about, a time-window that continues to move as new models are released on both sides.
See that's the thing, they can't. Every model needs hand holding and guidance.
some require less hand-holding than others though
No one is trying to argue that OS models are better than Opus 4.7. It's simply that they're good enough and cheaper.
The point is that the price gap is so much larger than the capability gap, that even with the extra compute needed to make up for the lack of capability, you can still come out ahead in terms of amortized $/work done.
Is it really when they are hundreds of times more expensive?
That is the 3-6 month sota-open gap people talk about, a time-window that continues to move as new models are released on both sides.
Do you know what economic trade offs are?
Both implicit and explicit..?