Comment by smokedetector1
16 days ago
If you look around at the country, you will see that the top echelons of wealth and power are held by a mix of christians and jews, if we divide it by religion. Further, the israel lobby does not equal jews, it equals the israel lobby. Currently christians dominate all branches of government. It would take a biased, dishonest analysis to conclude that jews as a group are in control.
i am confident that all the other “how many” stereotypes you have in mind are bullshit too, and have other cultural, historical, contextual explanations, just like every stereotype of every group.
You're right, the Israeli lobby does not equal Jews, but support for Israel is almost universal amongst Jews. It doesn't equal but it's strongly connected.
The staunchest antizionists tend to be Jews. Pretty sure there are more self-professed Christian zionists living in America than Jewish zionists too.
It behooves everyone to stop equating antizionism with antisemitism, because doing that actually breeds the latter.
> Pretty sure there are more self-professed Christian zionists living in America than Jewish zionists too.
All you're saying is that there are more Christians than Jews.
In the context of "you're conflating Jews with Israel" what actually matters if you want to compare with Christians is P(support Israel|Jew) Vs P(support Israel|Christian). Stop being disengenuous.
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> there are more self-professed Christian zionists living in America than Jewish zionists
this is a very important point I will remember as well. there are 10x as many evangelical christians as jews in the US, and they are often zionists. zionism is emphatically not just a jewish movement
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okay but your comment about antisemitic stereotypes having a grain of truth is a nonsequitur. the stereotypes dont exist because of truth, they exist because of bigotry. whether or not they overlap with current circumstances is irrelevant. if you look at the reality of who holds power in society you will not find that its exclusively - or even mainly - jews unless you set out to selectively ignore all of the numerous christian leaders and power centers