Comment by PLenz

3 hours ago

This. OpenAI and Anthropic are ultimately compute infrastructure plays and not really AI. Everyone will have models, they'll have the ability to run them. This is why the GPU shortage is in their favor.

And like Google and Meta, these companies are going to morph into advertising giants. Advertising is an economic black hole and it eats everything that comes close.

  • Embedding ads in LLM responses is something researchers are having a lot of trouble figuring out right now.

    I have seen the results of some early attempts. It fails in such hilarious ways that all these companies are scared of productizing it. But once someone does it, the taboo is broken and everyone else will follow suit immediately.

Maybe. But if we can all run our own model locally in 2 years on commodity hardware OpenAI and Anthropic will start to look like WeWork during the pandemic

  • I agree with you that they are headed in that direction! The GPU shortage is (I think) similar to the pandemic era hiring binge. It's less about the extra compute and more about denying the GPUs to potential competitors. They're racing against time to find something that gives them real moat (gen ai I guess?) and they are trading money for time.

    This is also why the money being poured into datacenters isn't going to result in as much development as you think. It's about leveraging other people's money to lockdown more future hardware. This is going to end exactly like fiber build out in the 2000s. Eventually that fiber got used but the folks who originally paid for it got hosed.

How does that view align with Anthropic leasing data centers from others?

I don’t know OpenAI’s infra, but to the extent they are buying GPUs and building data centers with their own money, that sounds like a bad move.

Satya has mismanaged the AI transition in many ways, but one thing he got right is that models are commodities, and the value is in applications that apply them to create user benefit. I agree that any company trying to build a moat with a model is not long for this world.

Do you think there will still be an incentive to release weights in that scenario? Everyone will have models only if there continue to be companies releasing weights.

  • Companies won't but I suspect this is a role that something else open source-y will fill that niche. Maybe orgs like wikimedia or internet archive, maybe some hackers just making things, maybe nation states that want to disrupt other players. Also model training will get better and better both on the algo and the hardware side. You can easily see a world where you might be able to train a good enough model on a home lab in a few days.

    • But you will need training data. Like a whole Internet search engine or massive data scraping. That‘s a thing that will not change with better algorithms, hardware or cheaper energy.

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