Comment by Frieren

18 hours ago

> the amount of harm they're willing to justify goes up. Feels like society in a nutshell.

Neocon society. Socialism is not like that.

Well, yeah, which is why it's evil. Socialism I mean. How else would you call failing to do basic utility math while insisting you should govern and shape society?

My answer to the trolley problem is that you're allowed to not kill... unless you're the railway manager. If you're in a position of authority you pull the shit out of that switch, and then drink yourself to sleep at night. This is what authority means, not choosing the "feel good, ignore the people that could have been saved" path.

Running into the problem that Americans are very bad at defining "socialism" here, meaning anything from social democrat to full Communism, but: there is a strong utilitarian streak in socialist societies that is also vulnerable to "the pain (for you) will be worth it (for someone else)" reasoning.