Comment by rybosworld

10 hours ago

If you watch old videos of tradesmen using basic hand tools like hammers, you'll find examples of skill/dexterity with the tool that I think don't exist today at all except maybe in communities like the Amish.

I think it's true that we collectively lose something akin to beauty every time technology advances. But usually some new set of skills that have beauty emerge.

If LLMs end up being the pneumatic nail gun for the human mind, I personally think that's a fine thing for us to accept.

If they end up being more like some dark factory that autonomously does everything - then I think ultimately the thing that makes us human (our minds) will slowly decay and be lost, and that seems very sad. That's a version of the future we should try to prevent, I think.

I mean the argument that is being put forward is that it isn't a pneumatic nail gun for the human mind - it atrophies are mathematical capability and quality of understanding.

  • You are less of a human for not starting all of your fires using friction from rubbing two sticks together. People who use lighters are destroying their ability to start fires without lighters and that is a very serious problem!

    • No technology has attempted to supplant human cognition on this scale before. Pretending its the same thing as going from sticks to a lighter is just silly.

  • Right - but you could imagine a similar sentiment anytime a skill was replaced by a new technology.

    I think the jury is still out on whether LLMs actually lead to complete atrophy of skills that don't eventually get replaced with brand new skills.

    • Anecdotally people have been noticing atrophy quite a bit. Again its anecdotal because we can't possibly have a study that works in real time because the technology is rolling out insanely quickly.

      And all the older technologies that have rolled out haven't competed against our cognitive abilities at speed and scale.

      I don't think of cognitive ability as a skill per se - more of a critical core function of humanity.

      I say this as someone who uses it extensively not some luddite but is also very aware of the risks which I assume are worse for people who have limited understanding on the matter.

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