Comment by thewebguyd

6 hours ago

> I hope this spreads to all of the internet.

It is. Unfortunately, its not happening with open platforms. Communities are migrating to private discord servers, and less is discussed in public/in the open.

I think we should still separate "working in the open" from "allowing or not outside contributions." Outside contributions are fine to be denied, however I think work and discussions should still more or less happen in the open for the benefit of all.

One day discord will cease to be, and there will be years of institutional knowledge and lore lost.

I much prefer the old school forum style. Forums could be locked down to be invite only to contribute, but for the most part were still world readable.

World readable has become a liability as well. How many times has some random disagreement been blown up by observers and lead to people being kicked out of groups, jobs being lost, or SWAT raids?

  • Okay, I'll bite: How many time has that happened? I'm definitely not an avid follower of such things, but I've never heard of that happening. I'm not arguing that it doesn't happen, but I'd like to hear/read details.

    I've heard of people within the argument directing SWAT raids at each other, or contacting employers, but I've not heard of it being driven by uninvolved observers.

    Now... I've heard of people posting things on social media that others found offensive, and losing jobs/gigs over it, so that sorta supports what you're saying, but even in these "edgy" social media cases (which weren't "arguments" per se, in the cases I've heard about), I've not heard of SWAT/police reactions.

Gatekeeping doesn't work if institutional knowledge is freely given to all, the entire point is that knowledge is only available to a select few and acts as a shibboleth to keep the tourists out.