Comment by haunter
2 days ago
The more close you are to the fire the more you understand how dangerous it is.
HN always have had a sizable anti-tech crowd (I don't want to say luddite because it's borderline pejorative). If you see the technology from close and you understand the human impacts of it then there is a reason some would rather stay clear from it. I know some FAANG engineers who doesn’t allow their kids to have smartphones or use social media even though they are themselves working at those companies. Why do you think that is? And you don’t even have to be a FAANG employee to see the social and human impacts of modern technology. AI is the same, in fact not even the same because it’s even worse and it will be only worse.
> HN always have had a sizable anti-tech crowd (I don't want to say luddite because it's borderline pejorative).
It's frequently said that technology is ethically neutral, and whether it's used for good or bad ends depends on how it is applied.
What you call the anti-tech crowd is simply the crowd that takes their ethical responsibilities seriously.
There are other potential points of view that could be adopted instead of tech neutrality. Some tech could be seen as inherently good, in which case there very little concern about how much of it is used. Some tech could be seen as inherently bad, meaning it should be avoided at all costs.
Anyone being honest about AI can see that although it has some positive uses, the potential for misuse is enormous. Therefore, if you're going to use it at all, you should think carefully about how to apply it. To people that have fully bought into the hype this caution appears like negativity instead of rationality.
I have recently begun to call myself a "technorealist". Technorealism is an old movement that I've found my existing views have been aligned with for some time. Technology is meant to serve man, and a solution that involves technology is not always the best one. We must consider the social and political aspects of technology, and discuss how it should best be applied before jumping headlong into using it. Solutions should be made to be sustainable in the long term, even when technology fails.
We've seen many applications of AI lately that aren't particularly sustainable, in several aspects.
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I'd imagine nearly all here are positive about technology itself, what they're against is: hype, 'progress' at all costs regardless of collateral damage, consolidation, anti-consumer practices - tech as wielded for power. If you pay attention long enough, it's hard not to become wary.
AI Dungeon was pretty cool, and harmless.
ML generated propaganda videos are not. An AI DC has already been destroyed by a military because it isn't harmless. And no, I'm not talking about Iran and AWS.