Comment by simianwords

2 days ago

Respectfully, this looks like coping with the fact that a fundamentally new technology is discovered but people can’t cope with the immensity of it so they end up throwing in shallow and spread out criticisms spanning sovereignty, USA bad, replacing people bad etc.

It’s my personal opinion and it looks extremely incurious analysis of what’s going on. Even if a person doesn’t like AI, I would expect a curious person to have more deep opinions. “Non deterministic database” clearly tells me this.

There’s not a single coherent critique but just throwing some polemic to see what sticks.

the grandparent commentor described potential future paths of unfettered ai usage. it's not clear why arises the expectation that a discussion of future possibilities must adhere to a contemporary argumentative format (mainly because concrete evidence of future events does not exist). it's your right to interpret this discussion as 'USA bad', personally I think it's very likely that the USA will continue to exercise power until it cannot. do you have any arguments that support ai being unleashed en masse? at the moment it seems to me that students are mentally atrophying as a result of outsourcing thinking to robots, therefore from my perspective it's crystal clear that the current path of 'let it rip' is suboptimal

  • The USA is terrifying from a non-US perspective now, and it's never been great. We're furious at the states and sick of being dependent on its enshittified technology.

    Anti-AI sentiment absolutely and correctly has a "USA bad" steak.

"Respectfully, <insert highly patronizing, incurious, belittling take about everyone who disagrees with me, which is completely divorced from any of the actual argumentation on the anti-AI side>"

Pure tech dimensions of AI are out of scope. The internet is full of tech critiques and praises, what's the point of yet another opinion on it. Can't open linkedin without seeing only AI-generated posts about AI replacing people next to AI dumb. But the political dimension seems completly abscent from the public discussion

  • It seems to be the opposite to me. There are mostly relatively fact free discussion of AI which are highly political. And rarely you can find some technical discussions. And even then politics will invade those discussions but ego and naive optimism tends to be more driving those discussions. Even on technical matters. NNs are still very much a black box afterall and people tend to project what they want on what they think is happening inside.

This is extremely inflammatory. It’s like you’re trying to start a fight. You’re actively degrading the quality of the discussion.