Comment by foo12bar
3 days ago
Even if everyone uses Chinese open weight models at somw point, how do you make money creating them?
This is just typical Chinese behavior. Flood the market with cheap or free stuff and wait for your competitors to die off. Then you have a monopoly. (Maybe you were implying that would happen, dunno)
I mean you could ask the exact same question about other foundational tech like Linux. And the real question here is what stops Americans companies from producing things cheaply and at scale the way Chinese companies do. You frame it as some nefarious tactic, but the reality is that they're just more efficient and American companies are unable to compete with that.
The Chinese government grossly subsidized many industries to undercut their competitors and form monopolies, such as solar panels, electric cars, battery cells, and steel and aluminum manufacturing, not to mention rare earths. Yes, they are more efficient, I don't disagree with you there.
But they aren't making any money releasing open weight models, and no, I don't believe they are like Linus Torvalds with some grand vision of free as is freedom AI models, but rather doing more of the same.
The US government has also grossly subsidized many industries. Tesla literally wouldn't exist without subsidies. However, the whole premise behind capitalism and markets was that this system was inherently more efficient than state planning. Now we see that narrative is false because China's planned system is winning across the board.
And that's the beauty of a planned system, you don't have to focus solely on short term profit there. If Chinese government sees this tech as foundational, which they do, they can just keep pouring money into it because it provides general benefits for the country.
This is exactly what happened with high speed rail incidentally. People in the west kept talking about how unprofitable it is, while China understood that creating this infrastructure would create a huge economic boost for the country by allowing goods and people to move more easily. Sure enough, China continued to invest in high speed rail, and now a lot of regions that used to be hard to get to are wired into the economy, and China is seeing substantial development in these regions.
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