Comment by joe_the_user

15 hours ago

Well, if all the data people uploaded to these models provided ironclad personal identification, would Anthropic need to have these identity verification processes? They could have directed Claude to disconnect all non-citizens when the order came, for example. Perhaps they don't to frighten people with that ability. But most likely all the inputs together only add to a rough identity hash.

> Well, if all the data people uploaded to these models provided ironclad personal identification, would Anthropic need to have these identity verification processes?

> But most likely all the inputs together only add to a rough identity hash.

You literally provide your name, email address, address and credit card number when you create an account and subscribe.

The identity verification they're doing is for legal purposes. Even if they have a way to take your name and IP address and figure out who you are with near-absolute certainty (including through the use of third-party databases), they're doing this so they have a legally-defensible process by which identities were established.

  • > You literally provide your name...

    Not if you are using through your employer.

    > they're doing for legal purposes

    The USA is becoming a Banana Repulic. Having grown up in one, you end up learning that "the law" is never meant to be used for the benefit of the people but only to give the veneer of legitimacy for the authoritarian abuse by those in power.

    “To my friends, anything; to my enemies, the law”: https://www.undp.org/latin-america/blog/graph-for-thought/%E...

    • Differential application of the law has been a part of American society for a very long time. I suppose you could argue that it's more brazen and accepted (or even celebrated in some cases) these days, but that could also be a function of people just being more willing to see it because America's reputation/standing in the world is in decline.

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  • > You literally provide your name, email address, address and credit card number when you create an account and subscribe.

    I don't recall Anthropic's payment systems, but I use Paypal wherever supported. I don't think Paypal sends my address, but am not sure. I'm pretty sure they don't send the CC information.

    And often, not even the name (e.g. have often had people use my CC to buy stuff (with my permission)).

    Also, I still routinely buy stuff from one service that thinks I'm in a state I haven't lived in for over 20 years, because that's the address I provided back then.

    So no, generally, sending your payment info doesn't equate to sending them my address.

    • PayPal sends everything you listed to the merchant except for CC number.