Comment by greyman

12 hours ago

>On output tokens, GLM-5.2 is less than a fifth the price of Opus.

Opus is most expensive model in pay as you go model, but IMO fair comparison should include subscription price as well. For example when one has $100 Claude Max and use it up through the month, it might not be more expensive than GLM, or at least not 5x.

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Aozora7  12 hours ago

There is, for example, OpenCode Go subscription, which for $10 a month gives you a decently generous quota of GLM-5.2, among other models.

And z.ai themselves also have subscriptions.

KronisLV  11 hours ago

> For example when one has $100 Claude Max and use it up through the month, it might not be more expensive than GLM, or at least not 5x.

https://z.ai/subscribe

I’m currently trying to figure out whether a downgrade from Max 5x to Pro in combination with one of those would save me money and if so, how much.

Edit: seems like Anthropic Pro + GLM Pro (Yearly) would let me almost halve my costs of Anthropic Max 5x. Only concerns are about GLM 5.2 not having vision support and also being kinda slower and also not being as good as Opus.

  • CuriouslyC  9 hours ago

    I'm considering shifting to the OpenAI $20 plan + GLM. OAI has the best computer use, vision support and the best programming intelligence of any model short of Mythos/Fable, and the quota is a lot more generous than the Anthropic $20 plan.

jameswhitford  12 hours ago

Yes this is true. This test was run on a $20 pro Claude subscription. I would definitely love to try use both models on the highest plans for a whole month and compare the two, great format for a future head-to-head comparison.

buster  12 hours ago

Is it fair when the one is heavily subsidized and the other one is not?

I think it's most fair to compare the plain token pricing that is used by everyone.

  • esperent  12 hours ago

    > Is it fair when the one is heavily subsidized

    As a consumer, yes, it's totally fair. All that matters to me is the price I pay at the pump, not whether that price is "real" or not.

  • usef-  11 hours ago

    Z.ai is also believed to be "subsidised". Its parent company is running at a large loss right now.

    Anthropic have claimed they expect their first profitable quarter this year -- they may have bigger margins on their raw API than you realise.