Comment by rvz

1 day ago

Notice how Anthropic is now scapegoating Chinese models providers like Alibaba and outright accusing them of distilling their models.

Whether if it is true or not, this is part of their effort into using them as an example to scare everyone into getting congress to ban powerful models from being accessed outside of the US and also banning powerful local models from being released.

Anthropic does not care about you, and they are not your friends.

I think it’s more than that. Piecing together the perspective of a few commentators in this post - it’s plausible Anthropic is trying to shift the narrative from US vs. Rest of the world to US vs. China.

In other words, they want to sell Fable or future more powerful models to rest of the world (presumably all future models are going to be more powerful than current gen). One way they can sell this is to the government is by scapegoating China (which is their primary concern anyway).

This is working on the presumption that non-US companies form a material portion of their current revenue.

> Whether if it is true or not

If it was just "that easy" then I doubt only "Chinese models" would be doing it and we'd already be packed with competition.

Distilling might be a thing but it isn't a free win.

  • Only China really has the resources (multiple labs invested in the space), culture (Asians are generally collectively-inclined, so sharing is in their core) and political bent (there will be no diplomatic repercussions) to put up a fight.

    • > Only China really has the resources (multiple labs invested in the space)

      That's not the point. Why is it a country thing? There are plenty of non-China startups in this space having resources at that scale. The "China" has resources is some "Western media narrative" speak. So Meta should have won a long time ago? Or xAI?

      > culture (Asians are generally collectively-inclined, so sharing is in their core)

      Just stereotype it? So we've gone from China -> "Asian"? Then where is your Korean or Japanese model etc? And somehow you know they're sharing.

      > political bent (there will be no diplomatic repercussions) to put up a fight

      More inferring from "Western media news"?

      Where's the reality?

      The media hyped up Gemini / Google TPU free-win last year. How did that go?

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