Comment by gaiagraphia
3 hours ago
Is there a historical precedent as to what happened when the upstart denied capability to the empire?
The closest I can think of is the bronze age collapse.
3 hours ago
Is there a historical precedent as to what happened when the upstart denied capability to the empire?
The closest I can think of is the bronze age collapse.
There is no consensus on what caused the bronze age collapse.
Perhaps, but I think volcanic eruption followed by system collapse is very compelling. Here is the story I find most convincing from the experts whose works I have read.
It likely started with a volcanic eruption, leading to widespread famine. Those in western Europe who didn't want to starve migrated en masse, as whole families, becoming the sea peoples. The powerful empires struggled to feed their people, and many were destroyed by the forced migration from the sea peoples. Egypt barely survived, but only as a shadow of itself. Many of the others were destroyed by those who had survived on marginal lands and didn't need complex societies to keep themselves fed.
Iron can't be the cause, as iron weapons pre-existed the Bronze Age collapse. I think the evidence is stronger that the collapse forced widespread adoption. The collapse devastated long-distance trade networks, which cut off the supplies of tin needed to make bronze. The scarcity pushed people to rapidly improve iron smelting.
I'm not a professional historian, but I do find the topic interesting. We should try to learn from past disasters to prevent repetition.
See Eric H. Cline's "1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed";
Epimethius video "What was life like after the bronze age collapse (extended version)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM6JSS3l-IQ
What's the time period between iron being widespread and the so-called collapse?
Thenn, it makes it more riveting when modern day phenonema happen, surely?
Unless you subscribe to a historical channel?
Sorry i forgot to ask. What are the top 5 theories, and do you see any modern parallels?
Are you an AI?
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> The closest I can think of is the bronze age collapse.
No idea about your question, but I'd love to hear more about this part.
Thank you for asking. I'm pretty pissed right now.
As far as I'm aware, one of the major reasons behind the Bronze Age Collapse was random cunts deloopvering iron tech.
Bronze required quite centralised tech which had developed supply chains. But iron was quite distributed in comparison.
Apparently the domino effect was real.
But who am i? I'm just a slopfuck in a sea of slop.
edit: forgot to mention the Fall of Civilization podcast (Bronze Age Collapse). Inpsiration is sometimes more powerful than outright truth?