Comment by epsteingpt

18 hours ago

How are they 'streaming' the responses and 'pooling' the tokens?

Do they have MacBooks in the US that run the queries and stream the outputs back to China?

Why do you need macbooks? Just rent servers from any hosting provider.

  • Not going to work for very long or at any scale coming from datacenter/hosting provider IPs. Google "residential proxies for sale" for the tip of an iceberg of how they snowshoe the traffic.

    • I use my Codex and Claude Code subs on like 4-6 different servers, ranging from AWS to Vultr to Linode etc.

      That’s a major and legitimate use case for developers, Anthropic can’t just block data center/hosting IPs because their actual customers use them on data center/hosting IPs.

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    • Hey, if the bastards can use residential IPs to suck all information into their models with their crawlers, so can we!

The resellers route requests via one of thousands of Claude Max 5x accounts. When an account reaches its usage limit, they automatically switch to another account.

  • Why would they use Max 5x instead of Max 20x, which is cheaper relatively speaking?

    • You're right, they're using the $200 Max plan, which I thought was the 5x plan. It's talked about in the article I linked.

    • Don’t trust my experiences as fact since it’s a bit opaque, but I believe 20x only offers 4x the 5hr session limits. The weekly limit is still 2x, which is the same as the price increase.

    > Do they have MacBooks in the US that run the queries and stream the outputs back to China?

why would anyone do that? you do realize the laptop farm case was work computers?

the answer to your question is containers/VMs + residential proxies

  • that explains why theyre blocking me. i have privacy controls up high and they must think im a chinese residential proxy bot