Comment by Gigachad

14 hours ago

I'm sure all the artists and creators they stole from had stipulations too.

The artists had actual laws to protect them, not just vaguely enforceable terms of service. And look where that got them. I have zero empathy for the huge company getting a taste of their own medicine.

Anthropic paid one billion in a copyright settlement. That's a lot of money considering they never distributed the pirated books they trained on.

Nowadays they buy copies of books, train on them, and then destroy them.

  • And it looks like the companies distilling Claude are paying for tokens using the subscription Anthropic provides. Seems like fair play to me.

    • They are almost certainly paying orders of magnitude less than a billion dollars. According to another comment, they instead buy tokens resold from subsidized subscription accounts, which is against Anthropic's TOS.

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  • >> I'm sure all the artists and creators they stole from had stipulations too.

    > Anthropic paid one billion in a copyright settlement.

    Because a judge determined Anthropic was engaged in piracy.

    > That's a lot of money considering they never distributed the pirated books they trained on.

    This is "fruit of the poisonous tree" as it were. Distributing content derived from pirated content ("pirated books they trained on") is why Anthropic had to pay what they paid.

    > Nowadays they buy copies of books, train on them, and then destroy them.

    There is a case one could make that this practice could be seen as unauthorized redistribution of a derivative work intended to deprive copyright holders of legitimate revenue.

  • It's fucking nothing. The copyright industry used to threaten individual citizens with $250,000 fines per violation for willful commercial infringement. Where are they now?

    Why aren't these big tech CEOs in cuffs with rifles pointed at their faces while SWAT seizes all of their computers?

    Anthropic paid a billion dollars? Ridiculous.