Comment by adriand

1 day ago

What are the wildest, most exciting but plausible things that might be discovered in these documents?

I am not a papyrologist or a classicist, rather I'm a computer scientist, so my expertise is unfortunately not in _what_ the scrolls say, rather how we get there. That being said I think and hope that there will be a trove of things that has no known provenance at all, completely lost works that elude the public memory.

  • Well what were your first thoughts when you decoded the script, besides the obvious Eureka, after making some sense of the texts?

    • Other members that were on the team before me had already proved it out before I came along so I knew it was possible. The cool thing for me though was specifically doing some physicically based rendering techniques. How well these work varies greatly, but on a few segments in one scroll they work extremely well. I whipped up some simple code to composite layers, did up a render, and without any ML at all was looking at multiple rows of text that no one had read for 2000 years. That was neat.

    • Probably something along the lines of "finally, now it looks like a coherent piece of text. I wonder what it says".

Here's a list. The scrolls are from a library that burned in 79 AD.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lost_literary_works

  • Woah there was a lost Homer epic comedy about a bumbling fool named Margites?

    • There's also the Telegony. Odysseus has a son through Circe who winds up killing him and marrying Penelope. Odysseus son through Penelope, Telemachus, marries Circe. There's some wild stuff that doesn't survive.

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Probably a lot more texts of Epicurean philosophy and not a whole lot else unfortunately according to my papyrologist friend.

  • That's what was thought, but maybe not -- only one of the three so far looks Epicurean, which is not what was expected. Maybe it's a fluke, but historians are buzzing a bit about whether it might be broader than expected.

  • Why would Epicurean philosophy be unfortunate?

    I was under the impression that there was almost nothing left of that school of thought, and that it’s writings had been destroyed.

    What would you like to have instead?

    • > What would you like to have instead?

      History! That's what intrigues me the most: texts with accounts of events that have otherwise vanished from the historical record.

  • in the paper it says "The recovered text is a philosophical treatise on ethics, and the evidence points to a Stoic work: it turns on human nature, impulse, and the moral progress of human beings, and its final preserved column names Aristocreon — nephew and disciple of the great Stoic Chrysippus — which, together with the language and themes of the text, places it in a Stoic context and dates it to the 2nd century BC."