Comment by manquer

8 days ago

While unlikely , it is not without precedent , there are restrictions on ASML a Dutch company to sell EUV machines

That’s because the Department of Energy originally funded and contributed IP to the EUV Corp joint venture between several semiconductor companies (including ASML and Intel). Their ability to export control EUV was part of that original agreement that the entire technology is built on.

ASML complies as an ally, why would China comply?

The weights are already available and downloaded, is it going to be a crime to have them, run them, make them available? Constitutional rights still exist (I hope)

  • > is it going to be a crime to have them, run them, make them available?

    Now you're getting it! Commerce will call it a munition and those harboring it as harboring illegal/foreign munitions.

    No business will take the hit, so they will quickly deplatform the models.

    No end user has the GPU capacity to use GLM 5.2 or similar models at full precision so the government will call the problem "mostly solved." But they might choose to "make examples" out of a few people using p2p software to download the weights if they choose to.

    • Or we use the models to work on fixing vulns and stop over-blowing the doom scenarios. Gotta save the kids and kill the terrorists though!

      I'm for making software better instead of banning it based on what the rich and powerful claim.

      I suspect the real fear is that open weight models undermine the financials and token prices they thought were going to pay off their ludicrous spending because they have all raced and raised hardware prices.

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  • > it going to be a crime to have them, run them, make them available?

    Yeah. Illegal numbers.

    • DeCss was short enough to fit in a t-shirt. Americans are larger these days, but not by enough to fit a decent LLM's weights on an XXXXL shirt, even double sided.

  • That too has precedence , there is long history of controls of cryptographic algorithms up until the 90s. It wasn't abstract either, older greybeards would remember browsers like Netscape had two versions International and U.S. for this reason.

    If you classify AI as a weapon which seems to be the direction that we are all heading towards, they yes first amendment rights won't likely apply.