Comment by throwawayffffas

2 days ago

They want to pick the easy fruit. The dumb criminals that would do that sort of thing over whatsapp.

Yes, but this easy fruit has a flavor of the week:

https://stateofsurveillance.org/news/ben-werdmuller-signal-z...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/coun...

> Common threads animating this violent conduct include anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity; support for the overthrow of the United States Government; extremism on migration, race, and gender; and hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, religion, and morality.

Like, you can get 30 years in prison now for moving some boxes with zines in them, just because you are anti-fascist.

Yes, this is American politics; but don't think that the benevolent overloads of the EU don't plan for this same outcome: Already in many European countries, I can go to prison for just saying, "Free Palestine". They want it so that people cannot even say that in private.

  • Listen I agree, but the solution to this problem is not social media mediated pseudo-anonymity the operators know who you are and they are working with them.

    The solution is keeping fascists of the levers of power which America has done an incredibly bad job at for the last 10 years.

    If you really want to have free speech, you need to be in your own domain and that is going to be increasingly dangerous as you have noted too. So you know I see antifa tor services run out of servers in Europe in your future.

    • I totally agree, the problem is difficult however because even if we create a perfectly anonymous system for registering with social media, modern LLMs make semantic analysis trivial. It's going to be impossible to remain anonymous without also using an LLM to strip the unique footprint of your text. Which leads to a very strange and monotonous culture for internet discussions. Might be unavoidable, though, at least for certain kinds of discussions.

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