Comment by horsawlarway
8 days ago
My increasing frustration with these plans is the harness lock in.
Anthropic won't even let you run "claude -p [prompt]" any more... They bill it at api rates.
So if you're trying to automate the ai (and seriously, that's the point) the subsidized plans are crippled.
They postponed that change, here is the email they sent out:
> In May, we sent you an email announcing that starting today, the Claude Agent SDK, claude -p, and third-party apps built on the Agent SDK would stop drawing from subscription rate limits and move to a dedicated monthly credit. We're writing to let you know that we’re not making this change today. We’re working to update the plan to better support how users build with Claude subscriptions.
> What this means for you
> Nothing changes for now. Agent SDK, claude -p, and third-party app usage continues to work with your subscription exactly as it did before today, and there's no credit to claim. Your subscription limits are unchanged. When we have an update, we'll share it with advance notice before it takes effect
Something I haven't been able to figure out.... How are you supposed to actually get an API key to use quota from your subscription? The terms of service still forbid using OAuth authentication and the API keys from the console indicate that you need to pre-load your account with funds when you try to use them.
This is for using claude -p, which is claude code, and you authenticate by running /login.
You can't get an API key for subscription based usage of claude, because you are supposed to use claude code only.
Z.ai does not lock you in to any harness.
Is there a secure way to use GLM without spending $10K’s for local HW? I “only” have a 128GiB inference machine, and don’t really trust anthropic not to steal my IP over time.
I see no reason to trust Z.ai more than other vendors.
Kind of, you need at least 256 gb of vram and 24-40 gb of vram to run the 2bit quantization, because it's a moe you just need the expert to fit in vram to get significant improvement over a pure CPU setup. At 2bits though expect significant quality loss.
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Ollama Cloud has a $20 a month subscription. They say they retain 0 information. And rather than token based billing, it's GPU time billing.
You'd need to multiply that $10k by 8 minimum.
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Neither does chatgpt. And is the harness lock-in such massive problem that you would pay 20x more?
They reverted this decision, "claude -p [prompt]" works with your subscription ok.
I'm using synthetic.new and Neuralwatt with pi and its good and also cheap
I have had bad experience with neuralwatt GLM 5.2. Seems like they may be using quantized version of the model.
Hi I'm the CTO of neuralwatt, would love to hear your feedback on what your experience was. Feel free to email me scott@neuralwatt.com. Also for GLM5.2 we run the FP8 quantization at 1M context which is a common deployment target.
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I think they rolled that back
They canned the moved to make -p commands API billable.