Comment by VladVladikoff

20 hours ago

They have a new head designer too IIRC, but probably is going to take some time for him to slowly move away from the mess he inherited.

Alan Dye was brought in during the Jony Ive era when they were launching the first Apple Watch because he came from a fashion/print background. Before Apple really figured out what the Watch was going to be (a health/fitness accessory for your phone) they were going for the "luxury fashion" angle.

Somehow when Ive left, Dye got put in charge of design even though he had zero experience in software design that anyone seems to be aware of. He was criticized for the years following for a lot of bizarre design regressions that were happening across all of Apple's OSes. Then a few months after Dye himself announced Liquid Glass at WWDC last year, he blindsided Apple by accepting a poaching offer from Meta, seemingly because Zuck isn't aware of how untalented the guy is.

Now Stephen Lemay is in charge, who's been at Apple for many years and actually knows stuff about software design. It's said that within the walls of Apple, a lot of people were very happy about the change, and the first showing of design changes we got since then are looking very good for Apple.

  • > seemingly because Zuck isn't aware of how untalented the guy is.

    Maybe Zuck just wanted his laptop to get better.

  • > Now Stephen Lemay is in charge, who's been at Apple for many years and actually knows stuff about software design

    And who was Dye's second in command, and who was integral in coming up with Liquid Glass, designing it, and forcing it down everyone's throat.

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    • The bit about internal rumblings at Apple I definitely read from him but the rest is just things we saw play out publicly over the past decade.

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    • Gruber does not have a monopoly on disliking Alan Dye’s work. On the contrary, I never met anyone who knew UI design was a thing that liked what he did.

      When you’re using a tool for 40 years and someone who really has no clue gets in charge, starts breaking basic functionality for no good reason and affecting your day to day work, it’s not hard to get infuriated.

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> slowly move away from the mess he inherited.

The mess he actively implemented and was an integral part of?

Why do people keep thinking that Alan Dye was the only person (apparently with God-like powers) who somehow forced and designed Liquid Glass alone, in isolation, and somehow sneaked it in to every Apple platform.

  • Because he's now a Traitor, an Un-person, so every sin can be safely attributed to him without losing faith in the glorious Party.

    Such is the world of Apple fans.