Comment by embedding-shape
6 days ago
> narcissism and selfishness that is utterly indifferent to the needs of others
This has to be rage bait right? What kind of hellscape do you live in where other humans taking vacation and wanting that to be respected is selfish? And how do you not realize the irony in what you're complaining about? Do you never take a vacation where you actually disconnect from your work?
I am German living in Germany and yes, I think not organizing a holiday replacement when you leave for more than a week is a sign of negligence and indifference; but unfortunately, it becomes more and more common to behave in that way. Many projects don't make any progress between mid of June and late August, depending on the number and diversity of stakeholders. I'd like to declare these ~10 weeks "individual contribution weeks" in which no one is allowed to do anything that needs the coordination of more than two persons.
it's because there is no incentive in general in EU to be excellent at your job. good or bad, you get the same pay, and dont get compensated for bringing extra value to the company
so naturally employees have a "fuck you" attitude
Obviously untrue, any place on earth you get rewarded for being better at your job, either directly by being promoted or after asking/getting a higher salary, or indirectly by being able to change jobs by outright being better. This is true in most sectors, especially in software where it's really easy to switch jobs if you have the slightest amount of brain power.
Where are all these misconceptions come from? And how are they so far from reality they don't even pass the slightest of critical thinking?
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I’m not sure if you meant it, but it is indeed the EU, or what it represents and its purpose to suffocate excellence that is at the very core of this matter.
But the pay does not actually matter either, people can and do excel in spite of pay and even time in many places in Europe and the world. What you are probably inadvertently lamenting is the very purpose of the EU, the underlying mechanism that exists in other packaging like “communism”, but whose underlying mechanisms, the machine underneath the cladding is really just management and suppression of the parasitized masses.
They don’t want you to excel, because you excelling scares the ruling class cabal because you may exceed them. That is at least until they can get their own kind into place and control everything like in the US, then they’ll support this fake narrative of excellence that is prevalent in the US, but is really an illusion, a fraud really, like most other things in the U.S. where nothing is what it is said or implied to be.
Aaah the perfect German neighbors.
Always right, always on top of things.
What can you do? I guess we're in vacance? Oupsy. *shrug in french*
Bisous !
Wait I'm Belgian and it is basically unheard of that a company cannot answer a customer's message for a month.
If it is a small company, then the owner will answer. If it is bigger, holidays will be planned so that no interruption will occur.
Companies can close completely for a week, usually between Christmas and New Year. That's all.
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What are you talking about? I was referring to German companies where we don't have proper holiday replacements for internal projects, as well as for those with external partners.
> Many projects don't make any progress between mid of June and late August, depending on the number and diversity of stakeholders
That's what, less than 8 weeks, in a year of 52 weeks, where things progress slower, and this is supposedly a big issue? And even if you know and understand that these other people are humans too, just like you, this is seen as "narcissism" and "selfishness", that they take vacations in the summer?
I'm sorry but this is borderline insane and inhuman, do you never rest? I understand your point of view when we talk about huge corporate entities with thousands of employees, but even SMBs with like 200 employees end up in a situation where people with specific jobs will have to be unavailable for weeks (as again, they're human just like you) and you can't realistically hire people to replace those for just some weeks.
you are correct
but its also the reason for the lack of EU tech capability and over-reliance on US
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What I wrote: "not organizing a holiday replacement when you leave for more than a week is a sign of negligence and indifference"
What you read: "taking vacations in the summer is 'narcissism' and 'selfishness' (...) these other people are humans too, just like you... this is borderline insane and inhuman, do you never rest?"
I rest my case, thank you. Also, 2.5 months are closer to 11 weeks than 8 weeks, but you don't seem to care about a sincere discussion anyways.
Is not rage bait even if it enrages you to hear the truth. It’s rather funny how the narcissists come streaming out of the woodwork when you call them out. But I understand it, narcissists have no ability to instant their own nature, i.e. they wouldn’t be narcissists. It’s an inescapable conundrum and paradox.
You rather typical deflection and distraction does not change any of what I said and you ignored in typical fashion. Humans taking a vacation is great and I fully support it and wish more Americans could take more vacations, but that’s a different topic you’re distracting with.
The selfish and narcissistic aspect is that of the subject post, lack of continuity, especially in a bureaucracy that affects others’ lives. It’s the simplest and most obvious form of narcissism. The fact that you are either unable to see it and are deflecting from it is rather revealing.
It is abrasive, selfish, and narcissistic to lack all ability to comprehend that other people’s lives should not be made dependent on whether one person is it is not on vacation. Is literally the height of selfishness … “I don’t care about anyone else or my impact on them”