Comment by mike-cardwell
8 hours ago
That timeline was exactly my experience with Apple here - https://www.grepular.com/Apples_Protect_Mail_Activity_Doesnt...
They don't seem to know or care what is going on with their own email systems.
8 hours ago
That timeline was exactly my experience with Apple here - https://www.grepular.com/Apples_Protect_Mail_Activity_Doesnt...
They don't seem to know or care what is going on with their own email systems.
Has anyone seen Protect Mail Activity get re-enabled after you've disabled it? I wrote about that a few days ago: https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2026/6/6.html
I’m still mildly annoyed every email I send using Mail has my IP embedded in it
This is your email provider doing this. I use Fastmail. Fastmail does not log the IP of the sender when you use its SMTP servers.
Source? I don't think this is true. Doesn't seem to be the case for me. Maybe your email provider attaches your IP address?
Seems like this is a Gmail thing: https://ylukem.com/blog/apple-mail-leaks-your-ip-address
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It’s in the headers. Send an email to your self from Mail and open the source in the inbox. There is your IP.
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Why? Something real, or just nonspecific vibes?
Fetching any email content is always worse than blocking it, because the typical threshold for spam is "is this inbox monitored". If that is true, then blast it with spam. And fetching anything ever proves that the inbox is monitored.
My impression as a Mutt user (which never downloads linked content) is that spammers don’t really care about whether an inbox is “monitored” or not.
At least in Gmail, downloading content (e.g. images) is disabled by default for suspicious emails. There is no way for the sender to know if it’s monitored unless this is disabled by explicit user action.
This freaked me out the first time I used Mail. It rendered a PDF about buying bitcoin on PayPal (I don't have PayPal). Looked at the same email in Gmail and Thunderbird, it's just a PDF attachment, no message, and the sender was different. No wonder people are falling for those scams, Mail makes it easy for them.
Now if only I had a better client on my phone (never buying an iPhone again)
I am starting to think all these "privacy" features merely exist as excuse for getting people to hand off their mails to Apple. Clearly the all do not deliver on the intended functionality, but the proxy/relay routing happens to some extent anyway. How convenient. If you were a company promising its users all the privacy, but secretly not giving a fuck beyond collecting user traffic and meta data, wouldn't you expect the state of things to look exactly like that? I mean, how could you explain this any other way, considering the size of Apple and the relative ease of developing such features reliably? Apple is hardly breaking ground here.