Comment by Sohcahtoa82

13 hours ago

Questioning the lithium source is valid, but also a red herring when we're talking about environmental impact.

But yes, battery minerals can involve human rights abuses. But ICE vehicles are also built from steel, aluminum, copper, rubber, electronics, and metals that can involve forced labor, unsafe mining, land displacement, pollution, or exploitative labor. The ethical issue is supply chain due diligence across the whole auto industry, not just lithium.

Funny how some people (Mostly anti-EV folks) only discover supply chain ethics only when the car has a battery.

what car company is using forced labor as you are claiming that is pretty serious, almost all except China, are built in countries with strong labor unions.

what I really hate is that EVs have given people a false sense of superiority that seemingly stems from their curious unwillingness to look at the ugly environmental and human rights abuses around the lithium sourcing.

  • > the ugly environmental and human rights abuses around the lithium sourcing.

    Be specific, please, and for completeness compare to the impacts of fossil fuel extraction and production for ICE vehicles.

    Lithium supply chains: Environmental impacts and trade-offs analysis - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235248472...

      Most world lithium production is attributed to spodumene mining in Australia, Brazil, Zimbabwe, and Canada, and to brine operations in Chile, China, and Argentina