Comment by akssri

5 days ago

This seems to be a redux of the 1x play (which was panned across the internet after the WSJ review).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3c4mQty_so

The hardware for these machines have been capable of household tasks for atleast 2 decades.

Here's PR1 cleaning up a room,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7JH3UWO6I0

The issue is not even teleop as a product. The issue none of these companies talk about is one of state-reset. Even a teleop-ed robot comes nowhere near the dexterity of a human - as the Joanna Stern review of 1x shows: 10 mins to load a dishwasher, 5 mins to get a glass of water, body coming the way of a fridge door, irrecoverable breakdowns every 30 mins...

Consider what happens if it drops some glassware or spills liquids on a carpet in addition (or worse does something stupid with the kitchen appliances). The teleop guy in Phillipines or India can't hop on a plane to fix this.

This 'environment reset' problem is at the core of RL - there are no solutions for this yet, only workarounds.

>> This seems to be a redux of the 1x play (which was panned across the internet after the WSJ review).

For a moment I thought it was the same company.

>> This 'environment reset' problem is at the core of RL - there are no solutions for this yet, only workarounds.

That, and generalisation. A year or so back Aloha made huge waves but teleoperation doesn't solve the fundamental limitation of RL, that you have to train anew for every new environment or task.