Comment by tpoacher

4 days ago

Black people constitute 13% of the US. Should opinions exclusive to black communities be ignored and dismissed as unreasonable?

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ImPostingOnHN  4 days ago

Could you be more specific? Which opinions about what could cause trouble, held exclusively by black people, are you referring to?

  • tpoacher  4 days ago

    Do I need to be "specific"?

    You made the general claim. I'm pointing out that the general claim when applied to a different minority population suddenly does not sound as reasonable, and could easily cause distress and discussions of persecution and discrimination.

    Pivoting to wanting to exceptionally examine an exact opinion for this particular minority is simply Special Pleading. The point stands that, no, people should not be expected to shut up and "defer to reasonable people" just because their opinions and interests are in the minority.

    • ImPostingOnHN  4 days ago

      > Do I need to be "specific"?

      Only if you want to make a coherent point. It sounded like you wanted to come up with a counterexample, but stopped halfway through finding one, and thus stopped halfway through making your point, hence my asking.

      Given that you instead wrote 3 paragraphs about why you shouldn't explain what you're talking about, I don't think even you can think of a counterexample, so I don't see this conversation going anywhere productive with regards to your point.

      > I'm pointing out that the general claim when applied to a different minority population suddenly does not sound as reasonable

      Hard to "point out" something that isn't true. It could sound reasonable, it could sound unreasonable. You haven't explained what you're actually talking about here, so impossible to judge so far.

      Feel free to contribute a nonzero amount of evidence towards your case here, and try to convince folks you're right. Remember, the topic is not people, but opinions of the form 'doing X is asking for trouble, and should be interpreted as a threat'.

      On the other hand, if you want to come up with bigger and better reasons why you shouldn't explain what you're even talking about: I'll pass, and my point stands even stronger than ever.

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OutOfHere  4 days ago

Minorities often seek to engage in witch hunts. Opinions should never matter when it comes to law enforcement. The facts and logic should. The fact is that even if a minority assert the email to be a threat, upon probing there is no way they can explain why or how it is threat.

An objective analysis should be sought. You can read one by cgpt in its shared conversation ID 6a46a4f2-82fc-83ea-89bf-de6e6108070c which clearly determines it is not a threat.

  • blooalien  4 days ago

    > Minorities often seek to engage in witch hunts.

    Some minorities sometimes seek to engage in witch hunts. Many others either don't care to waste energy on such pettiness, or simply have better things to do with their time. To be fair, there's a lot of messed up "Karen-types" among the non-minority groups that engage in witch hunting of various kinds as well, so... Yeah. Some humans are just messed up I guess...