Comment by milanito1985
4 days ago
Spain is really going in the right direction, I wonder why no one countries inspire from what they are doing
4 days ago
Spain is really going in the right direction, I wonder why no one countries inspire from what they are doing
I do agree blocking Palantir is a good move but the Spanish government is doing it for the wrong reason. Spain is storing all sort of data on Chinese servers, including their Intelligence, and Judicial wiretaps.
https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-huawei-contract-judici...
That is rather disturbing but this had me lol:
> Spain is “making a big mistake,” said Bart Groothuis [...] “Spain is now dependent on the country with the largest and most sophisticated offensive espionage program directed against us.”
I highly doubt he's naive enough to believe the "against us" qualifier exempts the operator of the largest and most sophisticated offensive espionage program ever.
espionage is a lot less bad than conquering by force.
the US properly fucked up by very publicly declaring intent to conquer greenland and canada
Right now you either give it to China or to the US.
China is not publicly threatening to invade the EU.
I think the EU needs to produce this themselves but right now they don’t and they don’t have any large, trustworthy allies.
so.. hand over your data to china to spite orange man. yes excellent move.
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You are literally wrong, the data is stored in Spain on their servers and managed by their government. The risk as stated by EU and US is allowing Chineese nationals to *enter* the data storage facilities (direct quote from the article you shared).
Yes, it's still bad but they are not as stupid to just have their servers located in China for this.
The Spanish public overwhelmingly trusts China over the US, so from their perspective, this is not necessarily a bad move.
Obviously, the best move would be to keep the data in Europe instead.
It makes no sense at all to trust either.
>Obviously, the best move would be to keep the data in Europe instead.
While 80% of Europe is subservient to the US?
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As opposed to what? American servers with Isreali backdoors?
How about Spanish servers?
I will never understand this helplessness that comes from these European countries. They are choosing to be dependent on foreign powers.
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They deliver part of hardware but the data itself is hosted in Spain and operated by the interior ministry.
still not the worst of reasons.
would be better to be on spanish servers, but decoupling from american tech remains a public good, especially if using american tech bans american competitors
If the data is encrypted before the upload I see no problem
Huawei is the complete data custodian. They are the ones doing the encrypting.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_now,_decrypt_later
Can’t form a COMINTERN if the US is watching.
So? And other countries are storing their data in the US, not covered by gdpr
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did you hit up wikipedia? the controversies section would be a start. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir#Controversies
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Well the CEO doing a public speaking tour where he sounds like a complete lunatic probably isn't helping...https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gjkj7975po
I think in general people are a bit distrusting of a tech firm headed by billionaires with deep political ties that sells AI driven surveillance state technology to governments
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> I can't figure out what the specific objection to Palantir is.
You have to be trolling, a single online search tells you how the company CEO is the textbook definition of technofascism. Take a look at his manifesto if you don’t know
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1w21gn340xo
At this point, can you tell me one non corrupt government?
At least they are doing stuff for the people
Define doing. The government is completely block from legislating since the coalition parties will not approve any law, only those that can help their separatist movements. The national budget hasn't been renewed since 2023, affecting new projects.
What we have is a corrupt president and party he'll bent on remaining as long as possible to not face the polls
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Looks like we’re doing this in the UK soon too.
Edit: not sure what the downvotes are. Burnham literally said he’ll do it today.
indeed, and he has apparently already been walking the walk
>"Burnham did not grant the US tech company any contracts during his nine years as Greater Manchester mayor, and is minded to take the same approach in Downing Street."
But how many did he deny?
I know I’m a conspiracy theorist but I’m looking out for random scandals, random high profile deaths, random infrastructure issues and random large scale accidents.
yeah, well, this is what a socialist president gives you. same as mamdani and his achievements
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Which aspect is unsustainable?
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I think the immigration is what keeps Spain from turning into another Japan or Germany - a stagnant, overly old place stuck in time.
And in Spain most immigrants are from Latin America with close enough culture and language to avoid most integration problems.
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Besides the mentioned comments Spanish speaking immigration is much more welcomed by radical right AND Germany had a lot of German speaking immigration from Eastern Europe. There are just no German speaking minorities left in other countries.
Germany has had an immense amount of immigration over the past couple decades.
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Just came back from Japan and I found it vibrant and modern.
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Except they don't seem to be an Isreali puppet state
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It seems in current discourse, turning a European country into another USA is a compliment.
Why do you thinks so?
A country with narcissistic criminal as leader who damages the US science for decades, kills people by dismantling USAID. The raising costs because of his four-week-war against Iran doesn’t help either but damages the economy worldwide.
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This seems ridiculously short-sighted and backwards.
Is your assumption that palantir is a good thing?
Sure Palantir has plenty of allegations. But giving same contract to China is insanity.
Politicians and governments like to introduce crap like blacklisting when they have a good excuse to (a target the public agrees with) so that later it's easier for them to use against arbitrary targets.
This prevents palantir being used against people, what are you talking about? How will blacklisting military tech affect you?